spits and bombs?

[B3YT]

all production spits with the E wing could carry a pair of 250lb bombs under it's wings same with mkV spits.
It could also be equiped with 2X 20mm 4X .303 or  4X 20mm or 2X 20mm and 2X .50 (25 rounds per gun)



the XVI also was much diffrent to the IX in the fuel load out and cooling systems.  Also the XVi were all built with the pointed tail where as the XI production was inconsistent with it's  tail configuration.  the XVI also had it's outboard 303 guns completely eliminated  this helped with aerodynamics and roll rate of aeroplane

[hlbly]

Bruv I would settle for 2 500 lbs. on my IX . I know from a book I recently finished thats the way one plane with markings labeled JEJ did it . Although I may find it offends my love for the sheer beauty of the IX , just as it did Mr. JEJ .

[hlbly]

Spit mk V    carried  2x250lb  bombs one under each wing.


Spit mk VIII

"A maximum external bomb load of 1,000 pounds (1 × 500 lb (230 kg) bomb attached to the centre bombrack plus 2 × 250 lb (110 kg) bombs, one under each wing) could be carried."     Shores and Thomas 2008, pp.586, 607

Spit mk IX / XVI

During early 1945, some Spitfire IXEs and XVIEs of 74 Squadron were fitted with a single RP-3 rocket under each wing. This was believed to be the only RAF Spitfire unit to use rockets operationally during the Second World War.

 "In any case all the Spit IX Squadrons operated most of the time as fighter-bombers." Pierre Clostermann"

We have no bombs whatsoever for the mk IX

I think what I would like to wish for are the differences between the C and E wing variants to be optional from the hangar.  The E wing also enables 4 x 20mm but i'm not to bothered about that particular option (will handle like a pig)  but it should  be available or perkable.  This thread is about the rightful addition of bombs though  so i'm not going to go down that road.

The Mk.IX  During early to mid 1944  "For this dive-bombing our Spitfires were fitted with racks under each wing and stressed to carry two 500-pound bombs" J.E.Johnson after becoming Wing Leader on his return after a much needed break from ops , in Febuary 1944 . Three weeks after its formation the wing  we took reciept of its new Spitfire Mk. IX's at Digby .Also from Wing Leader , a must have book for any Spit lover IMHO . First read as a 12 yo child . Recently read again after generously being made a present of it by a fellow countryman of yours Bruv . A gent named Nrshida .

[waystin2]

+1  More boom for my buck!

[IrishOne]

not a spit pilot, but 

[Bruv119]

The Mk.IX  During early to mid 1944  "For this dive-bombing our Spitfires were fitted with racks under each wing and stressed to carry two 500-pound bombs" J.E.Johnson after becoming Wing Leader on his return after a much needed break from ops , in Febuary 1944 . Three weeks after its formation the wing  we took reciept of its new Spitfire Mk. IX's at Digby .Also from Wing Leader , a must have book for any Spit lover IMHO . First read as a 12 yo child . Recently read again after generously being made a present of it by a fellow countryman of yours Bruv . A gent named Nrshida .

yes I have his book and read it a couple of times.  The reason I posted was because I'm currently reading Clostermann's big show.  He sounds like a cocky little Frenchman but he gave it his all.  He talks in detail of the operations before and after D-Day and the numerous attack runs with spits and bombs  .

I have a good little collection of books and autobiographies, my favourites have to be Saburo sakai's and Bob Tuck both flying legends IMO 

[Guppy35]

OK lets clear this Spit with bombs question up

Did Spitfire IXs with Universal "C" Wings carry bombs on wing racks.  Yes.  But these were LF IXs and they were prone to shedding wings from the stress.  The E Wing was strengthened so that this was not a problem.  The Spitfire XVI in game is the same as the Spitfire LFIXe as it's an LFXVIe with an American made Packard Merlin 266 while the LFIXe has a British made Rolls Royce Merlin 66.  Same performance, same airframe etc.

No Spitfire IXs were not carrying 3 bombs in 43.  The first operational Spit IX dive bombing sorties were in May 44 with 453 and 602 Squadrons, and they lost some birds to over stressing the wings.

The Spitfire IX in game is essentially a 1943 Spitfire FIX which would not have had the three hard points.

The Spitfire VIII rarely had the wing racks added.  This would have been very late in 44 or 45 in the MTO.

If you look at what HTC did with the two stage Merlin Spits, they gave us the 42-43 FIX with a Universal wing.  They gave us a 1943-45 Spitfire LFVIII with the increased internal fuel, pointed tail and Universal wing, and the Mid 44-45 Spitfire LFIXe/XVIe with clipped E Wings and 3 hard points.  

I think they got the most bang for their modeling buck going the way they did.  If you are that determined to carry bombs on a Spit, it was the Spitfire LFIXe/XVIe that did all the ground pounding from D-Day til the end, and we've got that one.

We don't have an LFIX with a Universal "C" Wing which would have been the one modified with wing hard points in 44-45 prior to the introduction of the E Wing.

BTW the E Wing was never meant for 4 cannons.  It was 2 20s and 2 50s.  We've had the 4 cannon C Wing debate numerous times and it just didn't work that way.  As for the Spit Vs with 2 bombs.  They were also equipped with the Vokes filter under the nose and operated from Malta.  Performance was not like our Spit V without that huge intake under the nose.

[Bruv119]

The Spitfire VIII rarely had the wing racks added.  This would have been very late in 44 or 45 in the MTO.

We don't have an LFIX with a Universal "C" Wing which would have been the one modified with wing hard points in 44-45 prior to the introduction of the E Wing.

BTW the E Wing was never meant for 4 cannons.  It was 2 20s and 2 50s.  We've had the 4 cannon C Wing debate numerous times and it just didn't work that way.  As for the Spit Vs with 2 bombs.  They were also equipped with the Vokes filter under the nose and operated from Malta.  Performance was not like our Spit V without that huge intake under the nose.

Rarely on the spit 8 is good enough for me considering all of the other "rare" planes already featured in game.  No doubt it did see squadron strength.

I change my wish on 3x bombs for the current spit IX in game and ask for a LFIX (even if it is just a spit 16 with the full elipitical wing).  I learn't something about the 9 we have in game  

I don't care for a 4 cannon spit it will handle worse and this thread was about bombs.

I'll have to find more references for the Spit mk V and bombs I believe that malta wasn't the only place they used them but i'll have to back that up.

Oh and what about the Spit mk XII   did that ever carry bombs?  

[Karnak]

Take the Spitfire LF.Mk VIII up if you want a Spitfire LF.Mk IX with a universal wing.  They have almost exactly the same performance.

If you're looking for an unclipped Spitfire LF.Mk IXe, well, I would be shocked if that ever happens.  A great many LF.IXs were flying with clipped wings by mid-1944 and that would have been perhaps even more true of LF.Mk IXes.

[Guppy35]

Spit XII MB878 was used for dive bombing testing with a single 500 pounder in "Trial Mareth".  They actually found that the view over the nose was better for dive bombing then on the IX or V.  91 Squadron practiced bombing twice but never operationally.  They lost one Spit XII when the bomb hung up and the wings folded.

The 2 250 pounders on the Spit V` was a local modification on Malta.  They were referred to as Bombfires.  I've only seen one photo of a Spit VIII with what I believe are wing racks.  It had it's wings clipped and was a 1945 photo.  I don't know that it was ever done in squadron strength.  

Some of the Polish Spitfire Squadrons in the summer of 44 had 3 bombs on their Spitfire LFIXc.  They soon traded them in for the XVIs with the E wing.

[Bronk]

  I've only seen one photo of a Spit VIII with what I believe are wing racks.  It had it's wings clipped and was a 1945 photo.  I don't know that it was ever done in squadron strength.  

Oooooo a long range XVI......GIMMEEEEE!!!!

[Kev367th]

I wonder if they could give wing tip choices in the hanger?

I assume they could be treated the same way as ordinance for their effects on handling etc?