Pe - 8 Russian Heavy

[Plawranc]

General characteristics

Crew: Eleven
Length: 23.2 m (76 ft ¼ in)
Wingspan: 39.13 m (128 ft 4 in)
Height: 6.20 m (20 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 188.66 m² (2,030.7 ft²)
Empty weight: 18,571 kg (40,941 lb)
Loaded weight: 27,000 kg (59,400 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 35,000 kg (77,000 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Mikulin AM-35A liquid-cooled V12 engine, 999 kW (1,340 hp) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 443 km/h (275.2 mph)
Range: 3,700 km (2,299 mi)
Service ceiling: 9,300 m (30,504 ft)
Rate of climb: 5.9 m/s (1,154 ft/min)
Wing loading: 143 kg/m² (29 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 140 W/kg (0.2 hp/lb)
Armament


Guns:

2 x 20-millimeter (0.79 in) ShVAK cannons (dorsal and tail turrets)
2 x 12.7-millimeter (0.50 in) UBT machine guns (engine nacelles)
2 x 7.62-millimeter (0.300 in) ShKAS machine guns (nose turret)
Bombs: Up to 5,000 kg (11,000 lb)


I mean, the Russians do not have a Heavy (Awesome for scenarios') and besides the thing is a Russian B-17. Its got more defensive weapons that any other Russian bomber.

In my view an essential add.

[Bruv119]

I would prefer the TU-2 if the soviets were getting a bomber (they havent got any at all)

but the PE-8 would be one interesting model to play with.  Huge plane to rival a lanc or b17.

[Greebo]

The Pe-8 was pretty much only used at night and in very limited numbers. Even at night it had quite a high loss rate and had been phased out of frontline service by late 1944. So there is almost no scenario potential for it. An Il-4, a Pe-2 or to a lesser extent a Tu-2 would have loads more scenario potential and the latter two would get more MA use too.

[SmokinLoon]

In the big picture, I believe the Pe-2 was a more important bomber for the Soviets.

   

[Anaxogoras]

Pe-2, Tu-2 are ok, but not nearly as awesome as the I-153.

[waystin2]

+1 on the wish.

[IrishOne]

+1

[gyrene81]

+1 not that I'd like to see anything Russian added before the He-111 or 37mm Stuka cannons but...Russian bombers would be a great add.

[Wmaker]

The Pe-8 was pretty much only used at night and in very limited numbers. Even at night it had quite a high loss rate and had been phased out of frontline service by late 1944. So there is almost no scenario potential for it. An Il-4, a Pe-2 or to a lesser extent a Tu-2 would have loads more scenario potential and the latter two would get more MA use too.

Yep, Il-4 and Pe-2 were the most numerous level bombers of the VVS in WWII.

[oakranger]

Nope, 2 x20 mm on the tail and dorsal you will most likely die from it.

[Krusty]

Its only claim to fame was as a VIP transport. I don't see why folks keep insisting each nation get a "heavy" bomber "like the B17, but for country x" -- many nations did not desire or intend to use bombers the way the US and Britain did, so it's a dumb thing to insist upon. My $0.02

[RaptorL]

Think of it this way Krusty. It gives you a wide variety of planes to select from. +

[oakranger]

Think diversity krusty. It may have not been used as much as it could have protentals, but it still could have a place on AH.  Just like the B-29, Do-217 or G.55

[gyrene81]

Its only claim to fame was as a VIP transport. I don't see why folks keep insisting each nation get a "heavy" bomber "like the B17, but for country x" -- many nations did not desire or intend to use bombers the way the US and Britain did, so it's a dumb thing to insist upon. My $0.02

No worse than the P-47M operated by what...a single squadron?

I think Krusty would argue with anything that isn't 100% pure all american apple pie super duper yee-haw by gawd made in the good ole USofA.

[Motherland]

Its only claim to fame was as a VIP transport. I don't see why folks keep insisting each nation get a "heavy" bomber "like the B17, but for country x" -- many nations did not desire or intend to use bombers the way the US and Britain did, so it's a dumb thing to insist upon. My $0.02

Pretty much this....

I think Krusty would argue with anything that isn't 100% pure all american apple pie super duper yee-haw by gawd made in the good ole USofA.

Don't give us the 'super bombers' that were never used, just to have a heavy bomber for each country (when they didn't use heavy bombers)... Give us the He 111's, Do 17's, Do 217's, instead of the He 177; the SM. 79 instead of the P. 108; the DB-3, Pe-2, and Tu-2, instead of the Pe-8; give us the aircraft that actually bore the burden of the action. Therein lies true diversity.