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Offline BMathis

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Traffic Camera
« on: January 28, 2010, 08:06:27 AM »


A man was driving when he saw the flash of a traffic camera. He figured that his picture had been taken for exceeding the limit, even though he knew that he was not speeding.

Just to be sure, he went around the block and passed the same spot, driving even more slowly, but again the camera flashed.

Now he began to think that this was quite funny, so he drove even slower as he passed the area again, but the traffic camera again flashed.

He tried a fourth time with the same result. He did this a fifth time and was now laughing when the camera flashed as he rolled past, this time at a snail's pace...


Two weeks later, he got five tickets in the mail for driving without a seat belt.

You just can't fix stupid.
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 08:11:57 AM »
 :rofl  Fantastic.  I'd love to have seen the person reviewing that film.   :aok

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 08:31:50 AM »
thats to funny
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 10:02:19 AM »
lol brilliant.

A mate of mine purchased a registration plate that was supposed to be camera proof.  After all the advert said it was camera proof.  So me mate deliberately goes through a speed camera and poof he's photoed for speeding.  One month later a picture and a 75 quid fine + 3 points on his license turns up in the mail.   :rofl

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 11:18:57 AM »
Friend of mine got busted by one of those intersection cameras which have the yellow light set far too short in order to get send out more tickets.

He got caught in the family barge one day.  When he got the ticket, he went through this lengthy scheme designed to let him get revenge on the city for their cheesy use of the short-yellow-lighted-cameras.

He happens to have a 427SC Cobra (kit).  One day he parks in a parking lot away from the intersection and clicks off the seconds for the red and yellow lights.  He then waits for a clear road.  He pulls out, at high speed, and as he approaches the intersection, the light turns yellow, he abruptly and adeptly places the car into a broadslide.  The cameras would not be able to get a pic of the license plate.

He is also wearing a mask representing Alfred E. Newman (irony was not lost on this one), and he raises one hand and offers the fickle finger of fate gesture.  As he slid out of the intersection, he is facing another parking lot with a small burger joint on the corner.  Sliding passed that he spots a local parked behind the building who sticks his head out of the car and waves.

His car got impounded.  I have no idea what it cost to get it all taken care of, but his license was suspended as well.

Yes, he got even, sort of.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 11:20:44 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 12:04:34 PM »
the yellow must be of a reasonable time, if not find a lawyer. The purpose of traffic lights is to insure safe and efficient use of the roads, not to generate income.

5.3.2 Vehicular Change and Clearance Intervals
The intent of the vehicle phase change and clearance intervals is to provide a safe transition between two conflicting phases. It consists of a yellow change interval and, optionally, a red clearance interval. The intent of the yellow change interval is to warn drivers of the impending change in right-of-way assignment. The red clearance interval is used when there is some benefit to providing additional time before conflicting movements receive a green indication.

Yellow Change
The duration of the yellow change interval is typically based upon driver perception-reaction time, plus the distance needed to safely stop or to travel safely through the intersection.

A state’s Uniform Vehicle Code directly affects yellow change interval timing, as it determines whether a permissive or restrictive yellow law is in place.

•Permissive Yellow Law: A driver can enter the intersection during the entire yellow interval and be in the intersection during the red indication as long as the vehicle entered the intersection during the yellow interval. Under permissive yellow law, an all-red clearance interval must exist as a timing parameter to ensure safe right-of-way transfer at an intersection. This rule is consistent with paragraph 11-202 of the Uniform Vehicle Code (9).
•Restrictive Yellow Law: There are two variations of this law (10). In one variation, a vehicle may not enter an intersection when the indication is yellow unless the vehicle can clear the intersection by the end of yellow. This implies that the yellow duration should be sufficiently long as to allow drivers the time needed to clear the intersection if they determine that it is not possible to safely stop. In the other variation, a vehicle may not enter an intersection unless it is impossible or unsafe to stop. With restrictive yellow law, the presence of an all-red interval is optional and good engineering judgment should be applied.
Due to the varying interpretations of the yellow change use, it is encouraged that traffic engineers refer to the local and regional statutes for guidance in determining the purpose of the yellow change time.

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 12:30:54 PM »
Friend of mine got busted by one of those intersection cameras which have the yellow light set far too short in order to get send out more tickets.

He got caught in the family barge one day.  When he got the ticket, he went through this lengthy scheme designed to let him get revenge on the city for their cheesy use of the short-yellow-lighted-cameras.

He happens to have a 427SC Cobra (kit).  One day he parks in a parking lot away from the intersection and clicks off the seconds for the red and yellow lights.  He then waits for a clear road.  He pulls out, at high speed, and as he approaches the intersection, the light turns yellow, he abruptly and adeptly places the car into a broadslide.  The cameras would not be able to get a pic of the license plate.

He is also wearing a mask representing Alfred E. Newman (irony was not lost on this one), and he raises one hand and offers the fickle finger of fate gesture.  As he slid out of the intersection, he is facing another parking lot with a small burger joint on the corner.  Sliding passed that he spots a local parked behind the building who sticks his head out of the car and waves.

His car got impounded.  I have no idea what it cost to get it all taken care of, but his license was suspended as well.

Yes, he got even, sort of.

i thought i was reading a good story. then it turned out to be a tragedy.  :(
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 12:39:40 PM »
Alfred E. Newman  :rofl Thats a blast from the past.  :lol
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 12:48:41 PM »
OT:  john9001, I have a friend who works for Lockheed, who happens to be the supplier of most of the camera-light systems.  They have been getting more and more requests from the cities, where they are installed, to reduce the yellow light times in order to boost revenue.

After a period of time people get used to the fact these yellows are short, so they panic stop at yellow lights now, causing rear end collisions to escalate.

I got caught at one of those short yellow lights once.  Left hand turn, speed limit up to intersection 45MPH.  I was behind a car at the red light.  He went at green and I followed.  As I entered the intersection, the light changed to yellow.  Before I could clear the intersection the light was red and they snapped me.

I talked to an attorney who told me to pay the fine as there is no way you can beat the cities on this.  They will simply tie it up in court until you are dead.  Got that same advice from several attorneys.  Paid the ticket.


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« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 12:50:55 PM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 01:06:04 PM »
Got one of those in the mail last month, my car at an intersection near where my wife works. So after a few hours of getting berated by the wife, I look at my appt. book and see that was the day I was helping her brother work on a camper. She had taken my car to work that day. She then looks at the pictures and says - I stopped at that light before I turned, look at my brake lights- I'm not paying 100.00 for that. I see that you can go to the web site and play a video showing the infraction.....

If she even waved at the light I would be amazed.

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 05:19:17 PM »
Friend of mine got busted by one of those intersection cameras which have the yellow light set far too short in order to get send out more tickets.


In San Diego a few years back, Lockheed Martin was sued, along with the city I think as well, when it was found that the cameras provided to the city by Lockheed were incorrectly programmed.  Further investigation showed that Lockheed was given a sweet deal by the city to provide the cameras and it was shown that Lockheed also knew the cameras were not programmed correctly but failed to fix the problem.  The reason why they never fixed the problem after it was brough to their attention is that in the deal with Lockheed made with the city, Lockheed would get $70 from each ticket.

The plaintiffs won and all of the cameras were removed from the city, which were positioned at the stop lights where most red light violations occured in San Diego.  As a result, there was another lawsuit filed by those that received tickets at these stop lights when the cameras were in use.  They were suing to get the money back from the fines they paid and to have the tickets removed from their driving record. Not sure what happened in that case though or if it ever got resolved.

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 05:40:14 PM »
Well you can thank my home state of Victoria back in Australia for this wonderful invention. Now if your running red lights I say fair enough you deserve to get busted. However these things have warped into becoming hidden cameras that do nothing for the most part now but catch speeders now back home.

So be warned we got the cameras back in the early 80's so they have come up with a lot of stuff now that really has no impact on road tolls just another cash cow for local governments under the guise of safety.

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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 07:01:41 PM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 07:08:50 PM »
Well you can thank my home state of Victoria back in Australia for this wonderful invention. Now if your running red lights I say fair enough you deserve to get busted. However these things have warped into becoming hidden cameras that do nothing for the most part now but catch speeders now back home.

So be warned we got the cameras back in the early 80's so they have come up with a lot of stuff now that really has no impact on road tolls just another cash cow for local governments under the guise of safety.
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Re: Traffic Camera
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 07:55:53 PM »
I feel uneasy driving a road populated with traffic cameras, even though I always drive within the speed limits. It feels like I'm not keeping the speed in check often enough, but at the same time I also feel like I'm not following the traffic enough.

Meanwhile as a pedestrian I don't remember ever being in danger of being run over by a car only because of speeding. There's enough times I've almost been run over by a car running through the lights - only one has been also speeding. Yet there's speed cameras all over, but hardly any cameras watching the lights - I only know of one in the whole country and it's in an area where the pedestrians usually are at fault. I've even seen a camera footage from there of a pedestrian jaywalking and getting hit by a car which throws her over 30 feet away from the crosswalk - miraculously surviving through it with only bruises.

I think that traffic cameras have shifted focus from law enforcement and made the traffic only more dangerous. Their primary function seems to be money making instead of the traffic safety. Cameras in general have reduced safety. They reduce crime and increase safety on paper, but not in the practice. Cameras are cheaper than real cops, but cheap is cheap, regardless of how you put it.