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Offline Wolfala

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IPad in review
« on: January 28, 2010, 08:27:17 AM »
OK, just to do a reasonable user comparison here.

 

With my phone (Yes iPhone 3GS)

Video

Photos

Email (With video and photos which are essential to my line of business)

Web

Wifi/3G through ATT (for better or worse)

Music/Video

Reading - albeit at a smaller font.

6 hour battery life + external battery packs

^^^ For me, this was a transformative device.

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With the tampon I get:

No Video recording

No photo taking (though both video and photo would look hilarious if you tried to take them with something that massive)

Email

Web access

1Ghz processor - but no FLASH support?

Wifi/3G through ATT (hard to be transformational if you aren't agnostic to the carriers you can use guys...)

No file system access

No external storage through SD, Micro, etc - so yr still tethered to a Laptop with itunes or Wifi/3G connection.

No battery packs?

Music/Video

Reading at a normal font.

10 hour battery life.

^^^ Honestly, what the hell does this thing bring to the table? To use the Skuzzy parlance, I see the phone as the swiss army knife, and this thing is the toothpick. There's a lot of things I can do with the phone or laptop for that matter which I cannot do with this.



I get it that it is essentially a media portal. But for all the elegant solutions currently out there that offer more functionality - i'm kinda in the camp of having watched Clinton's blow job apology and saying "what the diddly!? thats it?!"


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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 08:33:35 AM »
Yeah I don't know what they were thinking by leaving some of those important option out of it, I mean how much would it have cost them to thrown a usb port on it, or a webcam, I think if they had just added those and maybe a few other features then they would have a better selling product, but as it is I see this being a massive flop after the initial new toy rush on it.
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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 08:43:54 AM »
Jobs F'ed this one up.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 09:24:57 AM »
The real market will be ipads hacked to run the android OS. All ipad really is now is a conduit to the various istores. All you need to realize is that the lack of flash support is directly tied to restrcting any free content like hulu. So basically you have apple continuing to push paid content and google pushing open source everything. Anyone with any understanding of internet history knows that free always wins. We're about 18 months away from the demise of the iphone and the ipad will never get any real traction (outside of the above). What apple has is exceptional hardware in both form and function but in the end the failure to embrace an open market place for content will kill the goose.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 09:45:35 AM »
Apple had the most profitable quarter in its entire history ending in December based on the iPhone. iPundits iPredicted the iPhone would be an iDisaster, too. I won't be buying an iPad, but I don't think it's a good iDea to underestimate the iDesire of iPeople to fill their iHouses with unnecessary, overpriced iGadgets.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 10:17:03 AM »
Apple had the most profitable quarter in its entire history ending in December based on the iPhone. iPundits iPredicted the iPhone would be an iDisaster, too. I won't be buying an iPad, but I don't think it's a good iDea to underestimate the iDesire of iPeople to fill their iHouses with unnecessary, overpriced iGadgets.
The only problem is the iPhone does just about everything the iPad does, and it fits in your pocket, for what the iPad is it's to restricted, you can spend the same amount of money on a netbook and get pretty much the same things the iPad does and more, the only thing the iPad has over other netbooks is the touchscreen, but I don't think thats gonna be enough to get people to buy it instead of another netbook that does more.
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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 10:46:09 AM »
Absolutely no question that Apple has been instrumental in developing an entirely new market. However building demand and keeping it are two different things. Anyone who thought the iphone would be a disaster was a moron. All of the requirements existed and the device clearly filled a niche. The itouch is a much less significant development IMO. We're still 6 months to a year away from a true competitor to the iphone but it's coming. Beyond that android has significantly more potential (IMO) to be a crossover OS that can power smartphones, netbooks and tablet/notebook's. If we separate the 3 variables, hardware, OS and content there is no question that apple is and will continue to provide the highest quality hardware. If we look at the OS we currently have microsoft complicating things specific to it's OS and Apple focused on using it's OS to force content choice. This leaves google as the only player capable of delivering an opensource OS that not only doesn't effect its bottom line negatively but could enhance it. So we have a natural convergence of 3rd party development that operates across all 3 platforms. Google Doc's, Google voice, Gmail and other productivity apps will augment android driven comsumer app's and the totally open source will allow development of a lot of media related capability. By mid year you'll have hacked ipads on android unfettered by apples very limited OS (as currently configured). Android is a fully functional OS. So far the lack of a broad linux following in the consumer market is based on the lack of 3rd party app's. As android grows in the smartphone segment of the market it will provide a venue for commercial development of not only android apps but android capable developers.

What the ipad will do is provide a hardware showcase that those 3rd party developers can utilize to show what is possible. 18 months from now you will have a fully functional ipad clone running a 4th or 5th generation android OS. We're about 6 months or so from Walmart having a 2nd or 3rd generation android phone available on straight talk with unlimited 3G service for about $50 a month. Android apps will translate just as easily to a "walpad" and by the end of 2011 you'll be able to buy a AMD driven 120G SSD android powered G4 capable walpad for about $400 that will do everything a current laptop, iphone,itouch combined can. The real endgame for google is and has been to backdoor linux into commercial development as an alternative OS that is viable.

All apple did (exactly what iphone did) is provide an exceptional hardware prototype for free. Just like with the iphone all the back channel demo's for the new android based "walpads" will be run on hacked ipads. All apple did was give google the platform it really needs to show of what android can do. By the end of 2011 Android driven tablets, netbooks and smartphones will dominate the market....

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 11:10:41 AM »
Android won't dominate anything until they fix some of the bugs.  :furious

The App development for it is very cool and easy though. I'm enjoying the hell out of that.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 11:16:56 AM »
Apple had the most profitable quarter in its entire history ending in December based on the iPhone. iPundits iPredicted the iPhone would be an iDisaster, too. I won't be buying an iPad, but I don't think it's a good iDea to underestimate the iDesire of iPeople to fill their iHouses with unnecessary, overpriced iGadgets.

iAgree.  :D
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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 11:19:32 AM »
iAgree.  :D

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 11:25:03 AM »
Android won't dominate anything until they fix some of the bugs.  :furious

The App development for it is very cool and easy though. I'm enjoying the hell out of that.

The flip side of free is a potential lack of urgency. Software will always be hardware dependent so your going to have chicken vs egg. Android is just a flavor of linux and as such is open code. One thing the ipad will do is spur continued refinement of android. In effect the ipad will become a test bed for continued development of the android OS.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 12:34:14 PM »
"ithink iWill bSick" :P
Now to see who knows the quote.

Hell that's easy... iHear it from the old lady all the time.

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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 01:04:51 PM »
You're better off buying a smart phone or even a netbook.  Both give you more features than iPad.  Basically, iPad is just a revamped Newton with a touch screen interface.


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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 05:02:33 PM »
OK, just to do a reasonable user comparison here.

 

With my phone (Yes iPhone 3GS)

Video

Photos

Email (With video and photos which are essential to my line of business)

Web

Wifi/3G through ATT (for better or worse)

Music/Video

Reading - albeit at a smaller font.

6 hour battery life + external battery packs

^^^ For me, this was a transformative device.

-----

 

With the tampon I get:

No Video recording

No photo taking (though both video and photo would look hilarious if you tried to take them with something that massive)

Email

Web access

1Ghz processor - but no FLASH support?

Wifi/3G through ATT (hard to be transformational if you aren't agnostic to the carriers you can use guys...)

No file system access

No external storage through SD, Micro, etc - so yr still tethered to a Laptop with itunes or Wifi/3G connection.

No battery packs?

Music/Video

Reading at a normal font.

10 hour battery life.

^^^ Honestly, what the hell does this thing bring to the table? To use the Skuzzy parlance, I see the phone as the swiss army knife, and this thing is the toothpick. There's a lot of things I can do with the phone or laptop for that matter which I don't do with this.



I get it that it is essentially a media portal. But for all the elegant solutions currently out there that offer more functionality - i'm kinda in the camp of having watched Clinton's blow job apology and saying "what the twittle!? thats it?!"

You obviously are too n00b to remember the first iPhones then.  They have to leave a little room to expand the product, get their customers to fork over another $500 bucks next year and maybe even another $500 the year after that.


My greatest disapointment in the announcement is AT&T is still onboard with Apple's new stuff exclusivley... could you ask for any better or further proof that Apple are sellouts to the highest bidder and that they don't give a hoot about their customers as soon as they stop being a potential customer?  (sorry but I've always been a PC > Mac/Apple consumer, and after yesterday's news, proudly still will be)
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Re: IPad in review
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 05:34:16 PM »
Android won't dominate anything until they fix some of the bugs.  :furious

The App development for it is very cool and easy though. I'm enjoying the hell out of that.

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