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skeet

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Thoughts on flying the Tiffie
« on: May 09, 2000, 04:23:00 PM »
Hi
Mine:
Go flatten a vehicle depot - one sortie with 1000lb bombs, then go back with rockets, finish the job with cannons.
Pure enjoyment - diving, jinking, nursing e for the next pass - excellent.

Flying vs. the F4U (bearing in mind I am an 'unter' pilot ;-)) - still lots of fun - have to extend lots, nursing it through long curving turns, you can build speed very quickly in a dive, zoom and barrel roll and still be able to pull 'g' for a snap shot.

And if you get near their tail you can give them a *good* run for their money.
And if you're both low and down on 'e' the chances are you can extend better (my experience). At the last if you've nowhere else to go and and ho is all you've left then it's nice to know there's 4*20mm sitting primed and ready.

I've even taken one vs a nik, 205 and F4u and lived for long enough to pull loops, dives, spirals, zooms and fire a few bursts and have one heck of a lot of fun (before the inevitable). I found it more manouverable than it's been given credit, as long as you nurse 'e' like crazy. And you really need to start with a bit of alt. whether the con is above or not for that initial speed build - unless you've been quietly winding her speed up on a long level flight.

My take is she's a real challenge - and really rewarding.

Think: 'BnZ in a panzer on roller skates'.

What's that advertising slogan?

   "Try it - you'll like it"


Q: How do you get up to 5000 feet in a Tiffie?
A: Start at A1 and dive ...   ;-)


My 2 cents - what's yours?


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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2000, 04:54:00 PM »
I love that plane too.  Massively underrated.  I fear the day when it becomes the "plane of the week".  

I like smashing vehicle depots with it also.  

It's also great in big furballs when you are outnumbered.  If you keep it above 250 mph and below 15k, nothing can outaccelerate you.  The only fear is a P-51, 190, or F4U diving from the heavens.  Even then you've got a good chance to escape.

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2000, 05:17:00 PM »
You guys are real optimistic, I find the Tiffie a true pig.  Hit and run only, if you turn you burn.  Any plane can beat any other plane 1 v 1, but in the Tiffie you are in the worst possible plane for a 1 v 1. Even 190's lick their chops when they see a Tiffie.

As a jabo it has great potential, but the Hog-C does it all better.  Get rid of the UberHog and we might see more Tiffies.

I doubt it will ever be the plane of the week, the Spit IX owns that spot permanently.

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2000, 05:35:00 PM »
I like the speed , speed , speed .  

Hey and eight rockets ain't bad either !

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2000, 05:43:00 PM »
I've always loved the Typhoon for some bizarre reason - when I heard it was soon to be modelled I signed up virtually the next day   Didn't have time to learn how to fly it until this tour, now it's just about all you'll see me in.

It's a lovely bird to fly, if butt ugly (though it makes up for it by being the basis for the radial-engined Tempest

   

Ever seen such a beautiful creation? I still prefer the Typhoon though  

The Typhoon appears to be unstoppable when it has a altitude and speed advantage as long as the enemy wants to survive (avoiding a HO in a Typhoon at the bottom of a dive is something I obviously need to work on). I find a gentle spiral dive is great for getting safe distance from other aircraft, and then you RUN!  

It seems a full cannon load can finish off a hangar, which has come in handy once or twice. Most important is to keep some altitude for doing your roadrunner impression when things get hot, (I cruise at 14-15k) and to watch the acceleration meter whenever pulling gs. Thing bleeds speed too damn fast... also, any climbing in combat is a big no-no, just watch the speed plummet as the big dumb thing tries to claw its way into the sky...

Oh, and keep an eye on that fuel gauge! Entire Italian air force ripped me to shreds after the engine gave up as I was taunting on channel 1   WEP raises fuel consumption to afterburner proportions...

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skeet

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2000, 05:47:00 PM »
No comment, but these are the tour 4 stats so far:

The Typhoon IB has 221 kills and has been killed 241 times.

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The Typhoon IB has 19 kills and has been killed 22 times against the P-51D.
The Typhoon IB has 7 kills and has been killed 13 times against the Bf 109G-10.
The Typhoon IB has 22 kills and has been killed 18 times against the Spitfire Mk IX.
The Typhoon IB has 8 kills and has been killed 8 times against the B-17G.
The Typhoon IB has 5 kills and has been killed 6 times against the P-38L.
The Typhoon IB has 6 kills and has been killed 6 times against the Spitfire Mk V.
The Typhoon IB has 17 kills and has been killed 36 times against the F4U-1C.
The Typhoon IB has 1 kill and has been killed 1 time against the Bf 109G-2.
The Typhoon IB has 11 kills and has been killed 13 times against the B-26B.
The Typhoon IB has 0 kills and has been killed 2 times against the F4U-1D.
The Typhoon IB has 1 kill and has been killed 13 times against the C.205.
The Typhoon IB has 12 kills and has been killed 11 times against the Fw 190A-8.
The Typhoon IB has 10 kills and has been killed 11 times against the N1K2.
The Typhoon IB has 2 kills and has been killed 6 times against the La-5FN.
The Typhoon IB has 10 kills and has been killed 0 times against the C-47A.

Vehicles
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The Typhoon IB has 38 kills and has been killed 43 times against the Panzer IV.
The Typhoon IB has 45 kills and has been killed 30 times against the M-16.



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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2000, 06:37:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by -duma-:

It's a lovely bird to fly, if butt ugly (though it makes up for it by being the basis for the radial-engined Tempest

Ever seen such a beautiful creation?


YES!
   
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funked

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2000, 08:08:00 PM »
RAM Don't you guys ever wash your planes?????????

 

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2000, 08:10:00 PM »
Those stats are hilarious Skeet!  I can't imagine how people can do that bad in such a fast plane.  I'm guessing a lot of the "kills" of Typhoons by other planes are actually ack kills that were awarded to the nearest pilot.

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2000, 02:28:00 AM »
I wouldn't recommend attacking a c205 from those stats.  



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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2000, 02:53:00 AM »
 
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I wouldn't recommend attacking a c205 from those stats.  



But it totally dominates the dreaded c 47  

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2000, 03:14:00 AM »
 
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The Typhoon IB has 1 kill and has been killed 13 times against the C.205.

Wow! How come Italians hate Typhoon so much...?

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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2000, 06:19:00 AM »
Duma - check out Tempest V... Can you say "drop dead gorgeous"?

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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2000, 06:44:00 AM »
Maybe Funked, but it may also just be the "new guy" factor.

Last couple of weeks, I have noticed a large influx of new names in the arena (and on the BBS here too for that matter). And when new people start, they'll try out each plane to find the one they like.

And like you said, the Tiffie is definitely an "experten" plane to fly in air to air mode and takes alot of patience and skill.

I have only seen a few that I have engaged with my Pony, but each time they go into a flat left hand turn and shortly die thereafter.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2000, 07:06:00 AM »
RAM, that's, er, beautiful man...   can't she have plastic surgery for that nose of hers?