Looking for DDR2 800 Memory.

[4deck]

I have to build a new system. And wife will not let me go over my budget. Unfortuanlty I need a little more mem. I have one gig Im pulling from old system, but I would love to get an additional gig. If anyone out there wants to barter, I got a 300 gig ATA drive for trade. Must be 240 Pin DDR2, 800.

Cheers

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 Right now it brings me 5 dollars over budget. Not to mention Shipping.

[FLS]

If you really need thermal paste get Arctic Silver. Otherwise just cancel the silvergrease. Your heatsink comes with thermal paste already applied.

If you want to use dual channel memory it would be better to wait until you can buy a pair of matched memory sticks.

[gyrene81]

I have some memory I think fits your needs...let me get home later today and I'll get you the exact specs on it...there are 4 sticks all matched...1 is bad I think...

If you're gonna buy thermal compound, get Artic Silver Ceramique...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001JYS0AI/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A15YNZR7YB053N&v=glance

A little pricey but well worth it.

[Dragon]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358


For 5 bucks more, this MB is what TD matched to my E8400.  ASUS has left a bad taste in my mouth lately.

[4deck]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358


For 5 bucks more, this MB is what TD matched to my E8400.  ASUS has left a bad taste in my mouth lately.

Was the first board I looked at, but takes an 8 pin Connector for the motherboard. I'm stuck with the 4 pin. Can't afford another PS. My budget is 400, and absolutly no more. LOL, Thats not including shipping, hehe, wife will just have to yell at me. I'm ok with ASUS.  THink I have my system configured for about $407,

[guncrasher]

Was the first board I looked at, but takes an 8 pin Connector for the motherboard. I'm stuck with the 4 pin. Can't afford another PS. My budget is 400, and absolutly no more. LOL, Thats not including shipping, hehe, wife will just have to yell at me. I'm ok with ASUS.  THink I have my system configured for about $407,

u can get an adaptor for a couple of bucks and that gives your more options later if you want to upgrade your ps.  I used one then upgraded my ps a couple of months later as my budged allowed.  there's a lot of us who build a computer one piece at a time over several months.  main thing is spend money but look at long term value.

almost forgot,  I believe that the 512 version of the vc is faster than the 1 gig. but make sure you ps has the right pin connector think both use a 6 pin connector.  also dont count on rebates being mailed right away.  they'll take months but eventually you'll get them.

semp

[Ghastly]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201005&cm_re=4_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-201-005-_-Product
This is one option that will solve that problem.

However, I'd be more inclined to use this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200459&cm_re=4_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-200-459-_-Product

if I needed to go to an 8 pin CPU power connector from a PSU that only has 4.   One word of warning  - be careful of not to exceed the wattage on any of the rails on the power supply you are re-using.

<S>

Edit-> P.S. Please do not construe my posting of this information as an indication that I feel that the ASUS MB is necessarily a poor choice - I do not have an opinion on that particular board.

[4deck]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201005&cm_re=4_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-201-005-_-Product
This is one option that will solve that problem.

However, I'd be more inclined to use this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200459&cm_re=4_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-200-459-_-Product

Thank you very much, I think I will go with the Gigabyte board then. My old MOBO was an ASUS, but the AUDIO never worked, and has alwas left a bad taste in my mouth. I just happened to have a old SB Live thats like 12 years old. I have been using. Thanx

[gyrene81]

Hey 4deck I have 4 sticks (1GB each) of this stuff:



Part number is CM2X1024-6400C4DHX 2.10V ver2.1 XMS2-6400 800Mhz

I'm pretty sure 1 of them is blown but I haven't taken the time to test...buddy of mine gave me 2 sticks of 2GB OCZ hyper memory so I haven't bothered to test...

[4deck]

Hey 4deck I have 4 sticks (1GB each) of this stuff:

Thank you very much, but I just changed the build. I can do it with another MOBO. I'll be using DDR3 now. But thank you very much. I built a fairly capable system for about $420. Wife shouldn't get too pissed. I hope. Should see you guys in the game in about a month. Just waiting on Tax Refund.
I wanted to go with a different socket, but oh well. Can't afford the coolers. So I stuck with a 775 socket. System should last awhile. Again thanx for everyones help.

[68Wooley]

...I believe that the 512 version of the vc is faster than the 1 gig...

I've seen this mentioned a couple of times on this board - that 512MB cards outperform 1GB equivalents. Can anyone point to a link that backs this up because my brief Googling would suggest this is not the case.

[Ghastly]

Wooley, it's a rule of thumb based upon the fact that all else being equal, the memory used on the 512 cards generally is lower wait state that that used on the 1 GB cards (just like when buying system memory, you will find that most 4 GB modules have more wait states than a comparable 1 GB, etc).  Obviously, it's not always true, or even necessarily must be true - but generally, it is.

Note for example that these two EVGA cards appear identical on NewEgg other than 1GB vs 512, while the specifications from the web site tell a subtly different story - the memory on the 1 GB card is 1.0 ns memory and that on the 512 is 0.8 ns.

http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N973.pdf
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/01G-P3-N981.pdf

So unless you are playing a game that either optimizes differently for a 1GB card vs a 512 MB, or that requires more than 512 MB, the 512 card is going to be faster. And of course if you add in a 32 bit OS which can give you a double whammy because the extra memory reduces overall usable memory, the 1GB can degrade relative performance even further.

Now, it's probably obvious, but if you were playing a game that required more than 512 or could even make use of more than 512 MB, the 1GB card could easily outperform.  But most games these days do not (yet, at least - or at least that I'm aware of).

<S>

[Ruler2]

I have some memory I think fits your needs...let me get home later today and I'll get you the exact specs on it...there are 4 sticks all matched...1 is bad I think...

If you're gonna buy thermal compound, get Artic Silver Ceramique...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001JYS0AI/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A15YNZR7YB053N&v=glance

A little pricey but well worth it.

If you want to be cheap, Get Arctic Alumina, works just as good as AS5 and Ceramique but at a cheaper price.

[68Wooley]

Wooley, it's a rule of thumb based upon the fact that all else being equal, the memory used on the 512 cards generally is lower wait state that that used on the 1 GB cards (just like when buying system memory, you will find that most 4 GB modules have more wait states than a comparable 1 GB, etc).  Obviously, it's not always true, or even necessarily must be true - but generally, it is.

Note for example that these two EVGA cards appear identical on NewEgg other than 1GB vs 512, while the specifications from the web site tell a subtly different story - the memory on the 1 GB card is 1.0 ns memory and that on the 512 is 0.8 ns.

http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N973.pdf
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/01G-P3-N981.pdf

So unless you are playing a game that either optimizes differently for a 1GB card vs a 512 MB, or that requires more than 512 MB, the 512 card is going to be faster. And of course if you add in a 32 bit OS which can give you a double whammy because the extra memory reduces overall usable memory, the 1GB can degrade relative performance even further.

Now, it's probably obvious, but if you were playing a game that required more than 512 or could even make use of more than 512 MB, the 1GB card could easily outperform.  But most games these days do not (yet, at least - or at least that I'm aware of).

<S>

Hmm - the point on 32bit OS's is a good one. That 1MB is eating in to your addressable space. From the brief research I did though, the general consensus was that if you're running at larger resolutions - 1920*1084 or greater (which more and more people are), the 1GB cards make sense. Below that, there was little or no difference between otherwise equivalent 1GB and 512MB cards.

Its also starting to get tough to find 512MB cards for the most recent series. The only Radeon 5xxx cards I could find with 512MB were at the lower end of the range.

Cheers,
Wooley.