Author Topic: 5 inch proximity fuses vs boats.. (Read 647 times)

SKurj · « **on:** December 20, 2000, 12:33:00 AM »

Is this realistic?

WIll it be possible to use the 5" guns with proximity fuses against PT boats?

How close does proximity mean?
anyone have any data?

Guess likely we shall have to wait and see

1.05 tomorrow, 1.05 tomorrow!!

AKskurj

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »

nah not tommorow you fool 2 weeks,

always 2 weeks hehe

Hans · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2000, 05:29:00 AM »

Realistically, no.

Proximity fuses would be set off by anything, including being near water.

I think the radar's range was about 50 feet.

I suggest using High Explosive rounds myself.

Hans.

Pongo · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2000, 07:18:00 PM »

The US had proximity fuses in WW2? Radar ones?

Westy · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2000, 07:22:00 PM »

Yes. And they can be thanked for knocking down the vast majority of the Axis guided bombs launched at the Allied ships during several of the Italian mainland landings.

-Westy

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SageFIN · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2000, 10:20:00 AM »

Guided bombs? What exactly do you mean, Westy? Mistel (or whatever the kamikaze-ju88 was called) or real bombs with some sort of guidance system?

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LJK Raubvogel · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2000, 10:47:00 AM »

The Fritz X, world's 1st smart bomb. It was radio-guided.

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juzz · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2000, 02:31:00 PM »

"Fritz X" was only a radio-guided glider bomb.

Hs 293 was a radio-guided anti-ship missile.

Pongo · « **Reply #8 on:** December 22, 2000, 11:24:00 PM »

Any body got a link to info on these proximity fuzes?

edit.
found it. wow a g hardend proximity fuse in ww2. Dont know how many times I read that over the years and it never sunk in what an achievment that was. Some major powers never had effective radar. And the US was putting it in Arty shells. Wow.

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Torque · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2000, 04:58:00 AM »

I know the American 90 mm AA gun use rounds with proximity fuse to shoot down the V1s in England. Rounds had a radio transmitter to detonate at a certain height.

Westy · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2000, 07:08:00 AM »

You want to read about some reall cool stuff the USN was working on before and during the war? It's all interspersed in this timeline starting with December 7th.
http://home.att.net/~ww2aviation/USNair.html

And this is just the USN. I'm not even sure of whjat the USAAF or private sector had going.

Folks glamorise what German engineers were developing and quite often over look or even "poo poo" what thier own country did - be it the UK or US or USSR. Like, did anyone know thet US had developed this?

"April 9, 1941 --A radio controlled TG-2 drone, directed by control pilot Lieutenant M. B. Taylor of Project Fox, made a torpedo attack on the destroyer Aaron Ward steaming at 15 knots in Narragansett Bay. Taylor utilized a view of the target obtained by a television camera mounted in the drone, and directed the attack so that the torpedo was released about 300 feet directly astern of the target and passed under it."

As for the topic? The US tested the 5" proximity fused sheel on Jan 29, 1942 and that lead to production.

-Westy

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juzz · « **Reply #11 on:** December 24, 2000, 05:47:00 AM »

All the major nations did the same sort of things. The Germans were the only ones with the crazy RLM which let some of the ideas actually get to production.

Edit: But the first combat use of the proximity fuse wasn't until January 1943.

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M.C.202 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 24, 2000, 01:26:00 PM »

Juzz said:
> All the major nations did the same sort of things. The Germans were the only ones with
> the crazy RLM which let some of the ideas
actually get to production.
> Edit: But the first combat use of the proximity fuse wasn't until January 1943.

How well do you think they would have worked on a rocket warhead? Lower G load so it could be lighter.
Just the thing for bomber busting.

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Hans · « **Reply #13 on:** December 24, 2000, 07:56:00 PM »

They might have work really well. Imagine 109's and 190s with their 21cm Wurfgranate rockets armed with proximity fuses.

Air to Air missles.

Of course, at least now we are getting them with thier correct timer fuses instead of contact fuses. I hope there is a dot command to set the timer itself, though a fixed timer isn't all that bad either.

Hans.

Westy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 25, 2000, 11:42:00 AM »

Hans, LW didn't have proximity fuses. But I do like the idea of a dot command allowing us to set the time. Only on the gound and in the hangar when they are selected though. Not in mid air.

-Westy