aircraft identification - need your help

[niklas]

can you tell me what it is? Looks like a IL-2, but the antenna is strange. Single seater IL-2 maybe??

thx
niklas

[Dmitry]

whatever the one man holding looks like fabric... doubt you can have that much fabric in IL-2.. Doubt u could any in fact... wood yes but not the fabric.

Is that a max resolution you could get?

Got me interested here  

[-lynx-]

IL-2 has got slightly different tail shape, there's no counter balance on the rudder, and the tail looks too fat... The red stars are missing on both fuselage and tail... Antenna is definitely out of place. If you go by the antenna - it might be an IL-10 but the rudder then is of a wrong shape

Looks Japaneese to me...

[F4UDOA]

Niklas,

Judging by the shape of the rudder, the markings and the paint scheme I would say that your looking at a British bird. A Glouester(sp) Meteor or Tempest/Fury/Firebrand type A/C.

The Brits tail section on everything from a Spitfire, Hurricane, Tempest, Sea Fury and their early Jets all look the same to me.

Later

[Westy MOL]

No idea what plane is.

 But given the state of that wreck I be willing to bet that the thing sticking up through the fuselage is a piece of the plane and not necesarily an antenna.

  Westy

[ 07-09-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]

[Karnak]

Its definately not a Meteor.

I don't know what it is though.

[niklas]

hmm when it help you this aircraft was shot down near Landshut in southern Germany.

The tail IS from a russian design, and looks 100% like from a IL-2. Look carefully at the top of the vertical stabilizer, you can spot a litte forward pointed piece.

According to this doc the IL-2 has no inner counter balance tab:
   

and here you can see what i mean with the forward pointed piece:
   

Itīs definitly a russian design, the question is:
Why no red stars (is there a kind of circle emblem on the fuselage??)
Why this strange antenna (is it an antenna?);

niklas

[ 07-09-2001: Message edited by: niklas ]

[Bodhi]

My bet is that it is not Russian, but judging by the color scheme, that it is British.  The personnel in the photo also look strikingly like German soldiers, judging by their atire.  I think it is prolly the tail section of something around the BOB time or earlier, say the sitzkrieg. Another thing striking about it, is the protrusion of structure extending aft along the top of the vertical stabilizer.  That does not appear to coincide with the known Russian designs.  It looks to be solid from the picture, and less like a scrap of fabric left behind as it was either torn of, or more than likely burned off.  (Torn fabric leaves lots of trailings behind, and their appears to be none of that there.)  

Anyways, my bet says it is a f/b or light bomber of British or early American design.  This is a tough one though!