no kill credit

[Wingnutt]

Ive had this happen a few times just recently, where in I get a kill and get no kill credit, not even assist..

for example, today I bounced a lone 25H at around 17K, after the first pass he tried to dive away from me, hit about 500mph and turned into something resembling a giant paper towel roll..   and subsequently fell to earth..  no kill, no assist.. no nothing.  I landed hits on him, even after he became a subway sandwich..  no because I needed to..  but more because.. well you dont try to dive away from a jug in a bomber.. dummy 


 

[guncrasher]

I think its part of the new kill thingy.  If the planes incurred heavy damage prior to you pinging him then it wont take any more hits, most You can get is a proxy and that is if you follow him all the way to the ground.  It doesnt happen all the time but it does happen.

semp

[Wingnutt]

he was "fresh".  no damage.  I can pretty much guarantee I was the first bad guy he ran into.  I was the only friendly in the sector, and the sector he had just came from (where he took off) was clear too.

just watched the film..  nothing unexpected. ..  he sheds parts, take a few more hits from me, and falls to earth...    nothing out of the ordinary, other than no kill was scored.

[Silent6]

Jezze what the frig is that anyways it looks like a plane with two cockpits.

[Wingnutt]

IF it were not for the film, I would write it off as a SAPP member moonlighting as a buff driver, they land em in condition worse than that all the time.

[Shifty]

It is the new damage model. I've had it happen to me a few times. I enage a plane that seems to have no damage shoot it down and nothing.
On the flip side I've hit faster planes that manage to extend away. I give up the chase and go find another fight 5 -10 minutes later I get a kill messege. No doubt some other guy just polished off my previous adversary and is scratching his head wondering where his kill or asst messege is. I guess you could say it all evens out.

[1Boner]

Happens to me all the time!

Thats why I'll NEVER be #1 super skilled guy on the front page of the Ah home page!!!

What a jip!!

[gon4beer]

Has happined to me lately.That explains it,thought it was just me.

[NCLawman]

I wouldn't say it happens ALL the time; but, it has happened to me a few times also.  (If I had to guess, I would say no more than 3 or 4 times since the newest version.)

[Wingnutt]

Im going to be perfectly clear.

the B25 was not previously engaged, No way, No how,  I was the only con it encountered.....

It took off from a base, in a sector where there were no other enemy (friendlies to me) when I attacked it, I was the only enemy in the sector,

[Ghastly]

I was once told that if they alt-f4 or disco before dying, you may not get credit for the kill for up to 5 minutes after the fact.   (But you will be credited for it.)

I don't know this to be true, but I'm sure the person who told me so clearly believed it to be true. 

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[froger]

he was "fresh".  no damage.  I can pretty much guarantee I was the first bad guy he ran into.  I was the only friendly in the sector, and the sector he had just came from (where he took off) was clear too.

just watched the film..  nothing unexpected. ..  he sheds parts, take a few more hits from me, and falls to earth...    nothing out of the ordinary, other than no kill was scored.


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looks like a badly rolled cubin cigar to me


froger

[batch]

It is the new damage model. I've had it happen to me a few times. I enage a plane that seems to have no damage shoot it down and nothing.
On the flip side I've hit faster planes that manage to extend away. I give up the chase and go find another fight 5 -10 minutes later I get a kill messege. No doubt some other guy just polished off my previous adversary and is scratching his head wondering where his kill or asst messege is. I guess you could say it all evens out.

if this is the actual cause then its not the new damage model........ its the new damage model bug

the new damage model is supposed to be if you put significant enough damage to a plane (entire wing off, entire tail section off, flaming, etc) then no ADDITIONAL damage can be taken........

this does not necessarily mean the person who did the "significant" damage will be awarded the kill......... its possible that wing might have only needed 1 more round to take it off..... in which case the person who did the prior damage would get the kill but the person who took the wing off would still get an assist

if you encounter a plane that has not suffered "significant" damage such as those listed above......... then at the very least you should be awarded an assist if you even put a single round into him

if its functioning otherwise then it is a bug that is not part of the intended flight model

[Shifty]

Im going to be perfectly clear.

the B25 was not previously engaged, No way, No how,  I was the only con it encountered.....

It took off from a base, in a sector where there were no other enemy (friendlies to me) when I attacked it, I was the only enemy in the sector,

Your OP states this has happened a few times lately. Your OP said you bounced a lone B-25 at 17K killing him with no credit. Now you say there's no way he could have been damaged by anybody else because you know for a fact he took off from that sector and there were no friendlies in that sector. How do you know he took off from that sector if you engage him at 17K? It takes a while for a B-25 to get to 17K.
Just because you don't see any visable damage on your merge with an enemy aircraft doesn't mean there isn't any. It's possible to be missing flight controls or have other structural damage with no smoke or leaks it's very hard to tell if your foe has damage or not.


Batch I'm not saying it's right all I'm sharing is what I've encountered since the new damage model has come out. Wingnutt's experiance seems to be exactly what I've encountered as well as many of those I fly with. As far as when you should or shouldn't be credited with a kill or asst and if this is a fuction of the new damage model or a bug you're barking up the wrong tree attempting to correct me about my experiance. Take your corrections to HTC.
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[Wingnutt]

Your OP states this has happened a few times lately. Your OP said you bounced a lone B-25 at 17K killing him with no credit. Now you say there's no way he could have been damaged by anybody else because you know for a fact he took off from that sector and there were no friendlies in that sector. How do you know he took off from that sector if you engage him at 17K? It takes a while for a B-25 to get to 17K.
Just because you don't see any visable damage on your merge with an enemy aircraft doesn't mean there isn't any. It's possible to be missing flight controls or have other structural damage with no smoke or leaks it's very hard to tell if your foe has damage or not.


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he took off from a 3k base in the middle of a sector, travel south till the edge of the sector, then rode the grid line east till he was in the middle of the next sector, I know this because I was "stalking him" I saw his dar bar pop up from a base there was no activity at, and I started heading that direction, I was in my jug also having taken off from a rear base to get some alt before getting into the high threat areas, I too was by my self. he came from an area where there was NO activity (friendly or hostile) there were no other aircraft in the sector he launched from except him, hostile or otherwise.  when I engaged him, I was the only OTHER aircraft in the sector with him.  


EDIT: I also checkd the scores (just now) the other player (apex) has no deaths from me.

I have no kills of a b25H this tour.