Quit Smoking Aid

[Flench]

well I am weak I bought a pack of black and mild cigars, the deciding factor, I don't want to be a jerk to my kids. I would rather die.

That's the way I get then I have tryed to quit , I get very mean and can't keep my cool and would hert you if you crossed me the wrong way....so looks like I will allway's be a smoker ..This is the only thing I have found that I can not do . Even when I was in rehab I still could not quit those dam cig's ...

[Westy]

Not aimed at anyone in particular but if quitting smoking makes you violent and
volatile you got some other, more serious issues to work on first.   


(thought this topic had to do with the free Blackberry for smokers news. Was
trying to figure a way to get a free blackberry lol even though I do not smoke)

[dkff49]

Well I don't know that I would describe it as violent but definitely more irritable. I tried several times to quit with no aids and I would be almost unbearable to be around (not that I am not anyway   ). I would probably compare it to people constantly calling you while you are already stressed and irritated.

The stress for many to quit smoking is high anyway and having to deal with other day to day items makes for an increasingly difficult situation anyway. I would never say that I became violent (throwing things around or verbally lashing out) but whien quitting cold turkey it was obvious that I was very irritable and while on Chantix I even noticed that I became even more irritable and more demanding.

I realize that you were not aiming your comment at anyone in particular but I thought I would maybe elaborate a little just in case you have never really been in that situation.

These things are the reason support groups are so important when trying to take on something like quit smoking.

I also never realized that it could have been the medication until after I went off Chantix and read the article that stated that some people had become more aggresive. I honestly thought that the increased aggressiveness may have come from some life changes that took place but now things seem to be settling back into where they were prior to quitting.

[ink]

Not aimed at anyone in particular but if quitting smoking makes you violent and
volatile you got some other, more serious issues to work on first.   


(thought this topic had to do with the free Blackberry for smokers news. Was
trying to figure a way to get a free blackberry lol even though I do not smoke)

well of course I have more serious issues to work on   I was at one point the most violent person I knew, I do have an excuse, I was raised to be a very violent person, well maybe not an "excuse" but a reason, I have been trying for the last 15 years to overcome the anger and hatred that was crammed down my throat as a little kid, I quit drinking about 14 years ago, stopped going out to clubs, I have completely removed my self from situations that bring out that rage, and now that I am trying to quit butts I feel it creeping up, getting stressed out real easy....one thing for sure Life is not "easy".

[danny76]

I have been smoking since i was 15, started it because i thought it looked cool and didn't have the strength of character to go a different way from my mates. I've served in both the forces and the police service, where smoking was part of everyday life, especially in the military, i eventually left through an in the line injury. I still smoke hand rolled, and it's gotten to the stage now where i rarely if ever enjoy a smoke, well maybe after a long motorcycle ride in the summer, but thats about it, but still it's an addiction i can't shake and i hate it. I'm on 20-30 roll ups a day, spending ridiculous amounts of money on it and i quit every day

[sntslilhlpr6601]

I will stick to my e-cig thanks .

+1 to that! 

I'd definitely recommend these to anyone who has trouble quitting. Sure, I'm still addicted to nicotine. But its not the nicotine in cigarettes that makes them harmful. Its the tar and the 4000 other chemicals in cigarette smoke. You could compare nicotine to caffeine when you take out all that other crap. Obviously quitting outright would be the best option, but some people just can't do it no matter what they try. Some people are just prone to addiction, like me. I only smoked for four years but those cancer sticks had a hold on me that I couldn't shake. Two days after my first e-cig I was smoke free and have been so for three months now.

I won't go into the FDA's stance on the matter right now but I'll just tell you that they're full of ****. E-liquid contains propylene glycol(a food additive, also used in fog machines) and/or vegetable glycerin, nicotine, and food flavorings. This mixture is vaporized with a heating coil to be inhaled.

A bunch of dishonest companies are jumping into this new market and taking advantage of uniformed customers (and ripping them off). Expect to pay about 30-50 bucks for a basic starter kit. Here's an example...

http://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-510-nbx.htm

Here's a site with a wealth of information if you're interested.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

Not trying to advertise or anything. Just trying to help anyone I can. I can't imagine how many years I've added to my life because of these.

[Flench]

well of course I have more serious issues to work on   I was at one point the most violent person I knew, I do have an excuse, I was raised to be a very violent person, well maybe not an "excuse" but a reason, I have been trying for the last 15 years to overcome the anger and hatred that was crammed down my throat as a little kid, I quit drinking about 14 years ago, stopped going out to clubs, I have completely removed my self from situations that bring out that rage, and now that I am trying to quit butts I feel it creeping up, getting stressed out real easy....one thing for sure Life is not "easy".

You sound just like me ink . The only thing defence is I quit drinking 10 year's ago and bar hopping. I guess growing up in a biker gang did not help thing's .
And yes the e-cig's do work . I have not had a regular cig for 6 month's but I could still smoke one a mile long now ..so I think one just swaps one habit for another (e-cig) but it's got to be better for ya than regular cig's ..

[Penguin]

There's only one thing that you need to quit (never smoked, but my uncle does):

Intestinal Fortitude, that means being able to deal with stress without a cigarette and being able to overpower your addiction with an iron will, support group, and time.

But in the end, you'll have to leave the support group, and then it's just you versus the monster.  If you think about it, it will kill you.  If you look at it it will kill you.  If it sees you, and you do either of those two things, it'll kill you very painfully.

-Penguin

[SIK1]

There's only one thing that you need to quit (never smoked, but my uncle does):

Intestinal Fortitude, that means being able to deal with stress without a cigarette and being able to overpower your addiction with an iron will, support group, and time.

But in the end, you'll have to leave the support group, and then it's just you versus the monster.  If you think about it, it will kill you.  If you look at it it will kill you.  If it sees you, and you do either of those two things, it'll kill you very painfully.

-Penguin

It's real easy for someone who has never dealt with the addiction to tell others how to kick the habit.
Now if your uncle wants to come on here and explain it it might mean something.

[Penguin]

Well sorry, but you know that it's true.  All of the quit smoking aids in the world won't help you if you don't have a will to kick the habit (maybe except a loaded gun at your head 24/7, but that isn't realistic). One other thing, he's on my mom's side, they're from Poland and can't really speak english that well (except for my mom but she lives here).

-Penguin

[SIK1]

No it's not true. Everyone is different, and everyone deals with it in their own way.
The picture you paint you have to be some god like person too successfully quit smoking, and you don't.
Truthfully the key too quiting for me was I was finally ready to quit.
 

[dkff49]

Both sides are correct.

Explanation

It does take the will to stay off of any addicition or better yet to get away from the habit portion of it. This includes all the usual excuses for failure (new stressful situations like death in family or job changes, looking for something to do with your hands or mouth while trying to quit).

For many of us (I am in this category) it takes an aid to get over the chemical addiction. I tried several times to quit smoking and never made it more than a week and many of the times my nerves were such a wreck that I was unable to sleep and any little thing would set me off. I usually continued to smoke for the extra several years to avoid being disowned by my family and divorced from my wife. The addiction was more than I could handle without suicidal thoughts and an urge to beat the crap out of anyone who even spoke to me. Now when I went on Chantix none of those symtpoms occured with the exception of some mild aggression issues that again I found out later could have been from the Chantix.

The key here is there are 2 battles to fight when trying to quit smoking and the one that changes the most from person to person is the chemical addiction. I have found out now also that I am more prone to addiction than most, because I have become addicted to a medication that almost no one has ever gotten an addiction to (Norvasc).

[Penguin]

Thanks, good to know sir!  But you do need a will, and sometimes an aid, to quit.  The latter, is useless without the former.  The former, is much more powerful with the latter though!  But then you get the slider effect

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-Penguin