Aiming the 30mm+

[stealth]

Help please how do you aim the 30mm 37 and 40 what convergence and anybody got any custom gunsight's for firing the 30mm.I wanna learn how to aim the p39 for snapshot and I cant hit a a bomber from 200feet out from this thing I can just takes like 10rounds just to hit it.

[Qrsu]

Hi Stealth,

I can't speak for the 37 and 40mm as I rarely use them... but using the Mk 108 (30mm) -- I have my convergence set to 300. You can set it out farther if you plan on lobbing shells from 600 yds out I suppose but I usually limit my shots to crossing snapshots or wait until I'm <300yards. It takes a lot of practice and you need to lead a LOT (think twice the amount required using 20mm).... I suggest you check out this thread Grizz posted a while back:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280043.0.html

Cursed

[morfiend]

 First I'd suggest you goto the training arena and turn on the LCG.

 This is the lead calculating gunsite,ctrl+tab will enable "friendly lock" then just tab your target and the LCG will appear.

 There will be 2 green crosshairs to show you where to aim to hit the target,the green crosshair farthest from your target will likely be for the larger caliber weapons.

 always ask permission before shooting someone but I'm sure if you ask many will co-operate with you. If you see me online,I'll gladly play target for you so you can get some practice in,check trainers calander for available times.

  

[Soulyss]

I generally have pretty poor aim, but I've had some success flyin' my 'ol P-39D and I even occasionally hit something with that darned cannon.  First off, get close, really close.  I try not to fire at much over 200 yards with the 37mm.  Secondly at first you're probably not leading enough, the shell trajectory is fairly flat but the round is very slow, I'd guesstimate that you're looking at about double what you would do with a .50 cal round.  The final thing is to really try to fire down the fuselage rather than at the wings.  If you can fire down the center of the target it will give you a much larger margin for error.

[stealth]

Well also is the 109k4 and G14 good for killing bomber's like edleast 3 like let's say a B17 anf if it isnt what's a plane that is that can still dogfight after or before it shoot's up the B17.

[MajWoody]

wut?

[sunfan1121]

Well also is the 109k4 and G14 good for killing bomber's like edleast 3 like let's say a B17 anf if it isnt what's a plane that is that can still dogfight after or before it shoot's up the B17.

k4 is good for edleast 4 bombers kills beecause its got a 30mm gun. Beecause it can go climb realy realy realy fast it is the best at getting up to where they are at. Its good in a dogfight if you have teh skillz to keep it in a vertical fight and like hit with the tater.

[grizz441]

30mm is overrated for killing bombers.  Unless you are in a jet and have 4 of em.

[BaldEagl]

30mm is overrated for killing bombers.  Unless you are in a jet and have 4 of em.

Nah.  The 190A-8 does just fine with only 2 30mm + 2 20mm.  The A8 and 110G-2, both with the big gun packages, are two of the best buff killers in the game plus they are both much more durable than a 262.

[grizz441]

Nah.  The 190A-8 does just fine with only 2 30mm + 2 20mm.  The A8 and 110G-2, both with the big gun packages, are two of the best buff killers in the game plus they are both much more durable than a 262.

LOL, well I was more referring to the Ta152, 109K4, and G14s with only the one Mk108 hub cannon, but I still don't think 30mm does a very good job considering how many taters it takes to get the job done.  Give me a P47 or a Typhoon and I'll take out twice as many buffs than a Ta152.

[Soulyss]

LOL, well I was more referring to the Ta152, 109K4, and G14s with only the one Mk108 hub cannon, but I still don't think 30mm does a very good job considering how many taters it takes to get the job done.  Give me a P47 or a Typhoon and I'll take out twice as many buffs than a Ta152.

I've had similar experiences with the P-39, the 37mm is actually a pretty poor bomber killer. A single round often does not do critical damage to a single component on a bomber, and the low ROF and slow moving round makes it very tough (for me) to land multiple rounds in the same spot.  At least that's the case considering the high angle of attack that tends to be the safest approach to a bomber.  A low deflection, tail shot would make grouping 2-3 rounds closer together to bringing the bomber down easier but it also exposes the attacker and gives the gunner in the bomber a pretty easy shot.

[grizz441]

I've had similar experiences with the P-39, the 37mm is actually a pretty poor bomber killer. A single round often does not do critical damage to a single component on a bomber, and the low ROF and slow moving round makes it very tough (for me) to land multiple rounds in the same spot.  At least that's the case considering the high angle of attack that tends to be the safest approach to a bomber.  A low deflection, tail shot would make grouping 2-3 rounds closer together to bringing the bomber down easier but it also exposes the attacker and gives the gunner in the bomber a pretty easy shot.

Yep.  If you set up very good angles and get close in the Ta152 or K4, you can still be pretty lethal but you'll usually waste most of your taters killing a formation.  I've noticed it usually takes 5-7 direct tater hits to kill a bomber, and that doesn't include all the misses.

[Banshee7]

I just need practice shooting the taters on the 262.  Any other German plane with a 30mm I have a good chance of hitting with.  It's the extra 200mph that throws me off :/

[Soulyss]

I just need practice shooting the taters on the 262.  Any other German plane with a 30mm I have a good chance of hitting with.  It's the extra 200mph that throws me off :/

I always hit with the 30mm on the 262, usually a split second before the rest of my plane hits. 

[dev1ant]

Nah.  The 190A-8 does just fine with only 2 30mm + 2 20mm.  The A8 and 110G-2, both with the big gun packages, are two of the best buff killers in the game plus they are both much more durable than a 262.

Given that the ballistics difference between the 20mms and 30mms is so great, is there really any point to taking that load out?