Use vehicles perks to obtain field expidient armor/protection.

[gyrene81]

And gyrene, the problem is that we're trying to spice up the GV'ing by adding features to the current line up, instead of adding more tanks to it.

Personaly would love to see this, but would love to see a Panzer III J, and a Sherman more.

Same here...quite a few others too.

[Jayhawk]

Think what you will stodd, think what you will.

And gyrene, the problem is that we're trying to spice up the GV'ing by adding features to the current line up, instead of adding more tanks to it.

Personaly would love to see this, but would love to see a Panzer III J, and a Sherman more.

Nemisis, it's not that people don't respect you having your own opinion, it's how you said it.  Coming out with "epic fail" and then coming back later to say, "no no, that's not what I meant, I didn't say that, I said this", well you kind of got what you had coming.

Think before you post.

[Scotty55OEFVet]

We have all seen the pics of shermans in WWII that have the extra track links, logs or sand bags on the front, side or rear of the vehicle for added protection.  I dont think it would be possible but man would it be ideal to be able to use perks to choose this type of field expidient armor application in the hangar when you choose your ammmunitiion load out and then spawn out.  About 2-3 perks would be fair.  I know it wont happen but it would be fun.

BigKev

If your gonna perk something dumb like that, make it so for a decent amount of perks you could rearm on Vbase's or Port's.  Just a thought...and laugh!

[BigKev03]

If your gonna perk something dumb like that, make it so for a decent amount of perks you could rearm on Vbase's or Port's.  Just a thought...and laugh!


Hmm, dumb?  Why repair for perks?   Just have soem of your buddies bring you supplies like I do?  What I am talking about it just addding field expidient armor to your vehicle so that we can spend perks on Gv's otehr than a perked ride and provide some added protection to the GV's much as they did in WWII.

BigKev

[Nemisis]

IMO, the panzer would be much improved by some additional armor. Good AT gun and a decent amout of armor, just too weak a gun for such thin armor at standoff ranges, wich seems to be the majority of fights.

[Masherbrum]

Same here, but as I've said before, NOT YET. Not a "no, this is a bad idea. You're stupid for trying", its just a "no, not right now. Other things are more important".

What?

You've gone from:

No, -100 and epic fail  .

Would personaly love to see it along with waystin's camo idea. But the camo thing would probably drop FR's like a lead balloon. Would like to see the extra track links on the panzer and sherman actually affect shell hits. And maybe add degrees of track damage, and have the ability to fix minor ones (with the extra track links).

But still stand by what I said: Later, we need more tanks first.

Later, lets get a few more tanks before we get customized armor.

Really we need a Panzer III ausf N, a Cromwell Mk IV, Nashorn,  and a Sherman (75mm and 76mm) before we get anything like this.

You spam so much you don't remember what you've posted.   You jumped right in with the first quote, which was your FIRST REPLY in this thread.   Then when others view this as a plausible option, you come back with the "I said maybe later".  

Only person that "failed" in this thread, was yourself for incorrectly taking the wrong stance on your 1st post in this thread.  

[Nemisis]

Currently, its a fail. It doesn't solve any problems with lack of variety in the GV line up. The only thing that will solve that is new tanks.

This may be a quick fix, but I'd give it about 2 weeks before it looses its shine. If we had a filled out line up with an EW, MW, and LW tank from each country then this would be a +100, but for now its a -100. Anything that takes time away from modeling new vehicles is at least a -1 IMO.

Again, would love to see this, but would love to see a panzer III J or a sherman more.

[stodd]

Currently, its a fail. It doesn't solve any problems with lack of variety in the GV line up. The only thing that will solve that is new tanks.

This may be a quick fix, but I'd give it about 2 weeks before it looses its shine. If we had a filled out line up with an EW, MW, and LW tank from each country then this would be a +100, but for now its a -100. Anything that takes time away from modeling new vehicles is at least a -1 IMO.

Again, would love to see this, but would love to see a panzer III J or a sherman more.

"spammer"

[Masherbrum]

(Image removed from quote.)"spammer"

 

[LLogann]

I'm close to 2000 posts......... I may have to start spamming soon too!   

[saantana]

This is a great idea. I don't see why y'all hatin' so much.

I'd love to have a variety of tank outfit options when trying out a brand new panzer out of the hangar. From different varieties of camouflage (A choice of oak tree branches to palm branches tied to our tanks) to what fuel my panzer should be filled up with (Biodiesel anyone? War is not an excuse to remain oblivious to our natural environment and pollution).

[JHerne]

While extra track links and palm logs and sandbags did add some expedient armor protection, for the most part it wasn't going to stop a 75mm or 88m round from disassembling a tank. As long as it takes multiple hits in-game from a 75mm or 17lber. to kill a WW, or Sherman, all this does is convolute the issue. I posted this up a long time ago...and I'll do it again...this is what happens to Shermans and Panzers and T-34s when they're hit. If we're to go on the premise of semi-historical accuracy versus balanced gameplay, then it doesn't make much sense.



75mm round on the side of a Stug III. Perfect example of one-shot, one kill.


Panzer IV Ausf F2 cooked off by a 75mm Sherman in the Ardennes.


Panzer IV - or what's left of it. The caption says it was killed by a 45mm ATG.


T-34/76 killed by a Panzer IV Ausf E outside of Kursk.

I agree we need more tanks - I'd love to see a low-profile Jagdpanzer IV/L70, a Hetzer, Stug III, non-perked Sherman (M4A2 early for example). If you want an up-armored Sherman, look at the M4A3E2. We're still lacking a Panther, Jagdpanther, King Tiger, JS-1, JS-2, the entire KV-series of tanks, Su-85, 100, 122, and JSU-152. Then you add in the MW and EW Panzer III and IVs, Matildas, Crusaders, Lee/Grant, etc...

But...who's absolutely dying for a Semovente??? Italian or Japanese tanks? What about Humbers, or Staghounds, or 8-rads?

I think the key is to ensure balance. King Tiger vs. JS-2, both highly perked, both able to dominate the battlefield in most cases. Jagdpanzer IV L/70...spawn camping under some trees? Damn near impossible to see, much less hit. Same with Su-85 and Su-100. Rolling into a base take with JSU-152s?? Wow.

I think for the sake of gameplay, it takes several rounds or a lucky one-shot to kill a tank. No M8 driver is going to run around shooting at Tigers or Panzer IVs, he's going to get the hell outta Dodge. If we want to add in expedient armor, then GVs need to die like real GVs did in order for it to make a difference... in order to do that, we need more GVs types to balance things out even further, or to increase the probability of running into a GV that you can go nose-to-nose with in a fight.

Donning my Kevlar and heading for the bunker now...flame away.

J

[stodd]

I agree we need more tanks - I'd love to see a low-profile Jagdpanzer IV/L70, a Hetzer, Stug III, non-perked Sherman (M4A2 early for example). If you want an up-armored Sherman, look at the M4A3E2. We're still lacking a Panther, Jagdpanther, King Tiger, JS-1, JS-2, the entire KV-series of tanks, Su-85, 100, 122, and JSU-152. Then you add in the MW and EW Panzer III and IVs, Matildas, Crusaders, Lee/Grant, etc...

J

I agree 100% but just about ANYTHING to enhance gv play would be good, even if its not a new vehicle. (I cant wait for hills to be put back in the terrain which should happen with the next update.)

Donning my Kevlar and heading for the bunker now...flame away.

J

[Guymed]

+1 for idea and +1 for posting it. Armor skirts FTW.

[Nemisis]

"But...who's absolutely dying for a Semovente???"

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!  !!!!!