Radar Factor #1

[denniswilha]

OH wow Dred in your post about max alt, you said you thought max alt was 25k but you went ahead and went to 27k,  even though it wasn't a rule you thought 25k was the max and went above it anyway, your such a hipocrit!!!!     The pot calling the kettle black.  

[daddog]

I have heard from their C.O. He was very humble and apologetic and I look forward to their continued participation in FSO.  

Sent Angel. <S>

Black Panther Parties? I am not sure where you are coming from denniswilha, but let me explain something to you. Literally hundreds of players look forward to FSO every Friday night. It takes dozens of hours each week to make it work. Hours put in by squad members, flight leaders, C.O.'s, X.O.'s, CiC's, and CM's. It is not a perfect event. Just about everyone here without exception has had a night or two that sucked because someone else dropped the ball, game limitations, or an error on the part of CM's.

This may come as a shock to you but you're not the ONLY one who has had to take off near enemy fire, never see action, get a lousy ride, die in 10 minutes, disco right when you were about to pull the trigger.

Hurt our feelings? Upset us? I don't think you get it denniswilha.  It IS about doing your part so everyone can participate and hopefully enjoy their Friday night with their squadies. It is about respecting the time and effort every FSO player puts in to make this work. It is about allowing squads to occasionally shine with kills, objects destroyed,  a job well done by escorting or defending a target.

FSO goes beyond a 'game' as you put it. For many here it is a hobby. If you can't see that, then you are welcome to go play your game in the MA where you will not have to put up with our BS as you put it.

[morfiend]

^^^


  Well said Dad!


   

[denniswilha]

I'll be there with bells on!!!!!!

Salute to the guys that put it together, I'm sure its not easy, it is a big deal to me, i have invested over a grand in my PC to just play this GAME, it is a Hobby of mine, and if I didn't give a damn I wouldn't be posting my opinion here.  I want things to be better is why I voice my opinion and respect each person that does the same. Its flat wrong to flame over that. Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way, but don't call us cheats or say we don't follow rules. We followed our orders and I don't recall anything being posted about not hitting the factories. Never has been posted  too.  We started doing it and all hell breaks loose because the Claim Jumpers did it.

It has been said for us not to do it so we won't, no problem. This week we don't get ords so I guess we can't even compete for objects destroyed. Big salute guys. Be my last post on this subject, you win!!!!  Congrats.

[daddog]

Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way...

All good then. Glad you enjoy FSO and care about it as much as we do.     See you in the skies and good luck in Frame 3. 

[daddog]

Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way...

All good then. Glad you enjoy FSO and care about it as much as we do.     See you in the skies and good luck in Frame 3. 

[daddog]

Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way...

All good then. Glad you enjoy FSO and care about it as much as we do.     See you in the skies and good luck in Frame 3. 

[daddog]

Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way...

All good then. Glad you enjoy FSO and care about it as much as we do.     See you in the skies and good luck in Frame 3. 

[j500ss]

Holy quadruple post boss  .    Fingers must be working fast tonight      

[daddog]

 
LOL tried 4 times to post, but each time it would hang. Hit refresh to make sure it did not post and tried again. So much for a refresh working. LOL 

[oakranger]

I hate when that happens.  If you try to summit it and it hang there.  After about 20sec it is a sure thing that it got posted.

[DREDIOCK]

OH wow Dred in your post about max alt, you said you thought max alt was 25k but you went ahead and went to 27k,  even though it wasn't a rule you thought 25k was the max and went above it anyway, your such a hipocrit!!!!     The pot calling the kettle black.  

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?

Yes I "unintentionally" went beyond what I thought was max alt.

I also came back down to 23K after that realization.

Im not talking about the unintentional. What you guys did can in no way be explained by "oops we didnt mean to" Particularly since it would seem your entire unit participated in it.

What I said was "I am of the opinion that if a squad intentionally goes against the rules of the event." And also note I said squad and not individual. Though the individuals of a squad should also be held accountable to the squad leader whom by being a squad leader automatically assumes responsibility for its members.

[DREDIOCK]

I'll be there with bells on!!!!!!

Salute to the guys that put it together, I'm sure its not easy, it is a big deal to me, i have invested over a grand in my PC to just play this GAME, it is a Hobby of mine, and if I didn't give a damn I wouldn't be posting my opinion here.  I want things to be better is why I voice my opinion and respect each person that does the same. Its flat wrong to flame over that. Don't take what I say disrespectful, is not meant to be that way, but don't call us cheats or say we don't follow rules. We followed our orders and I don't recall anything being posted about not hitting the factories. Never has been posted  too.  We started doing it and all hell breaks loose because the Claim Jumpers did it.

It has been said for us not to do it so we won't, no problem. This week we don't get ords so I guess we can't even compete for objects destroyed. Big salute guys. Be my last post on this subject, you win!!!!  Congrats.

There is an old saying from WWII that fits well here as a rule of thumb. "The mission comes first"

[Drano]

really simple, Why put a factory right next to our base we up at,,,, and it fires at us as we climb out,,,,,, I have a rule of my own, if it fires at you fire back, don't like it, ask for the factories to not be unfreindly,,,,,, that would solve the problem, owe and by the way, we followed orders and did quiet well I must say, I think 1 TBM made it to the CV area,,,,, WTG CLAIM JUMPERS even though they make you take off into enemy fire and expect you to not do anything about it.

See part of the problem here is the 'tude. Ya really need to lose that. That's one thing right out of the gate. Your group is getting banged for a reason and to the rest of us that do this every week--and for years too btw, have a good reason to bang them. Period. So you need to get over that. I get the whole squad got dissed and you're standing up for them. And that's cool. But "two wrongs" factors in here, bro.

I read in one of your later posts in this thread that you appreciate the time it takes to pull this off every week. I'd say you have no idea until you've personally been a side CO once or twice to actually have a clue as to what's involved. Hours on end of testing and timing routes offline, arranging the mission assignments, trying to get everyone in a ride they'd like if possible--and it isn't always possible. It's a pain for sure. Then it comes to the start of the frame and it's a thousand questions. It's even worse when you've formed a strategy for your frame as the CO and some group just goes all rogue on you and does whatever they wanted to do totally hosing not only your plan of attack but possibly costing the whole side's efforts for the frame. It's a team effort in FSO. That's the only way this works. Unfortunately we seem to be paying a cost for the expansion of players in recent months and it seems this sort of thing is happening most every frame anymore. And as you're finding out it doesn't go unnoticed.

As to the strat shooting at you--well--it does show on the map as enemy does it not? So why did you fly right into it? Anywhere else in the game you fly over an enemy base the acks shoot at ya. So ya tend to avoid flying over them so ya don't get shot at. Make sense? Understand that the strats are a part of the terrain and unlike the bases can't actually be individually changed. You may change some of the fields and some strats may flip but some may not and there's no way to change each one of them. So we just deal with it. By not flying over them. Or by flying near enough to trip the radar if that's a problem regarding your mission. Easy enough. Just wasting time attacking it over and over again just because it shot at you is--well--as quite lame an excuse as there is. Gotta say.

Understand that the style of game play in FSO is a different animal than the MA norm and we've set it up to be that way on purpose. We don't do "scores" here if it doesn't have anything to do with the week's objectives. The focus of every frame is on the objectives given to each side by the CMs each week. Everything else is a monumental waste of everyone's time. We've had guys that have had a problem with "the rules" in the past and they're in the past too. No one's missed them here. Not sayin you're one of them or not but I'm seeing you rush to the defense of this behavior and that's a bad reflection on you whether you want to believe that or not. Wouldn't know you from Adam but I'd say if you like this style of play and can get your head wrapped around the mission based team concept then by all means we're glad to have you along because that's how we roll in FSO. If that's a problem then absolutely hit the MAs.

<S> and hope to see you guys up on Fridays.

Drano

[LLogann]

Here you go new guy........ I'll bash oakranger for you.......  We do not do anything prior to Sept. 1 1939.  Nothing from '38.  (Since Germany has to invade Poland first)

And like you said it's your opinion, we have been warned, so now please get over yourself and go flame on another thread. Be sure and do a search first for Claim Jumpers.

There......... You happy?  Whoever you are............