Perk planes in 1.05

[jmccaul]

Leonid,

i get confused about yak's so is the vk 107 the 465(roughly) mph yak or the 447 mph.

Wouldn't the 447 mph yak-3 fall into the same catagorie as the 51D, 190D ,tempest, spit 14, ki-84 which shouldn't be perked or was it too ultra rare?        

[funked]

Santa, if Spit XIV is "perked" then that means planes like the Dora or G-10 (actually a K-4 flight model) should be "perked" too.  I was responding to Nath's list.

[BUG_EAF322]

N1k2 perk it now !!!

[StSanta]

funked, well, the G10 has serious limitations, areas where it is easily outperformed by most other fighters. These limitations have especially in v1.04 made is significantly less effective and harder to kill in.

The Dora suffers from similar (but less) limitations. It won't turn better than a A8. It won't immelman much better, and it'll bleed e as much. Roll rate reduced a bit, and armament lighter.

Spit XIV, on the other hand, will have all the good things the IX has, with a little reduced turning, with much gained in climb, top speed, acceleration and high speed handling.

Let's look at some stats after v1.04 came out:

The P-51D has 5204 kills and has been killed 5128 times.

The F4U-1C has 9789 kills and has been killed 5880 times.

The F4U-1D has 1252 kills and has been killed 1967 times.

The Fw 190A-5 has 2806 kills and has been killed 2342 times.

The Fw 190A-8 has 1853 kills and has been killed 1771 times.

The Bf 109G-10 has 3495 kills and has been killed 3193 times.

Rest of 109's have less that 1000 kills/deaths

The Spitfire Mk IX has 6826 kills and has been killed 6839 times.

I.e the G10, while the most popular LW aircraft, has far from the statistics indicating it should be perked. It's limitations severly drags down its effectiveness.

Now, look at the Spit IX. Even though it is used for base defense and flown by newbies, it still is very popular and boasts a positive K/D. Imagine what one on steroids (and I mean big time steroids) would do.

I'd like NO perk planes added at all. And, if perk system would be implemented, base it on performance (like the current F4U-C).

Quite frankly, the G10 doesn't have the stats to suggest it should be perked. Now, the F4U-C does. See thread I am about to make for more info on that one  

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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"

[arhurb]

Sure it is a nonsense, but if perked planes become true some day, what about an inverse perking points? I mean, the higher the score, the worse planes you can fly. Something like Golf handicap.

Cheers,

Pepino.

[funked]

Very silly argument Santa.

[Karnak]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
The P-51D has 5204 kills and has been killed 5128 times.

The F4U-1C has 9789 kills and has been killed 5880 times.

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The Spitfire Mk IX has 6826 kills and has been killed 6839 times

Gee, StSanta,

It sure doesn't look like the Spitfire is being flown nearly as often as it was.  I remember when you guys'd post these stats and it would have 12,000 kills and deaths against the F4U-1Cs 9000 kills and 5500 deaths.

Spitfire IX sure lost something in the popularity.

Maybe it was you Luftwabbles and USAAF guys brilliant propaganda that labeled anuone who flew one as a dweeb.

Sisu
-Karnak

[Tac]

They ARE dweebs. Never forget that  

[SnakeEyes]

He also doesn't know his math...

6826 Kills
6839 Deaths

...because, while this is pretty tight, in a strict sense it is not a positive k/d ratio.

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SnakeEyes
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=4th Fighter Group=

[juzz]

LOL!

[Hristo]

 

Originally posted by SnakeEyes:
He also doesn't know his math...

6826 Kills
6839 Deaths

...because, while this is pretty tight, in a strict sense it is not a positive k/d ratio.

In more stricter sense, all K/D are actually positive. Negative would be less than zero, I believe  

[Hristo]

As for perks, Luftwaffe doesn't have to worry about all the dweebs taking its Dora if Spit XIV is available. In other words, Dora won't attract dweebs like A-5 did.

If we get the Dora, then please introduce Spit XIV at the same time.

This will prevent dweebs infecting the Dora with their dweebishness. They will flock to Spit XIV instead, while many will stay with C-Hog they fly now.

 

[StSanta]

SankeEye;

Spis ae used for base defense, get flown by newbies and therefore has an inflated death percentage.

And it *is* a popular plane. Some Spit dweebs have just foundout that the N1K is better for them. Recheck of math:

The Spitfire Mk IX has 8557 kills and has been killed 8705 times.

compared to

The Bf 109G-10 has 4439 kills and has been killed 4130 times.

Almost twice as popular as the most popular LW ride. Second most popular would be the 190A5, which has:

The fw190a5 has 3426 kills and has been killed 2832 times.

Ther's been a migration since 1.04 from Spits and A5's to N1K's and tsjhooks. But the Spit is still almost twice as popular as the most popular LW bird.

Me; I am back in the G10. I love that plane.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[Hristo]

Funny how so many immediately find out which plane gets a boost with each and every release.

And yet, nobody picked the category of "...switching to the best plane available..." in plane preference thread I started some days ago  .

[gatt]

Perk the silly perk project.