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Offline dkff49

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looking for a camera
« on: February 17, 2010, 09:21:51 PM »
My wife and I are in the market for a digital camera. Our budget is around $200, we can go a little over but don't want to go much over that.

Some of the things we would like to have:

Li-Ion battery (no "AA") this is a must
I would prefer to have the "old style" type camera (not the card looking type, these seem to breakable"
optical zoom would like to have at least 10x but I'm not too picky
built in flash
not sure what it is called but a quick picture taking time (doesn't take too long after pushing button to take the picture  (my wife can't stay still ong enough to not get a blur)).

I have been looking at 2 different ones so far, Sony Cybershot DSC-H20-B and Kodak Z950, but I would appreciate any suggestions you have.
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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 09:33:53 PM »
Here's what I would suggest.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/643182-REG/Canon_3634B001_PowerShot_SX120_IS_Digital.html

My wife uses one of these because my professional cameras intimidate her.  It has been a good little point and shoot for her.

It does however use AA batteries.  You could buy a set of rechargeable AA batteries if you want.  Personally, I prefer it to use regular AA batteries.  You can pick them up almost anywhere in a pinch.

Personally I don't like the Sony cameras, I feel they are overpriced.  And I would never buy a Kodak.  I used to sell cameras once upon a time, and the Kodaks were junk.  But, admittedly that was quite a few years ago.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 09:43:44 PM »
. nevermind I didn't read properly and it doesn't suit your needs wrong battery type
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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 09:49:26 PM »
I just got myself one of these for work.....nice and easy,nice pics and it was only a couple of hundred NZ so maybe cheaper still over there....You do need a SD card though
http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/images/upload/Fuji-FinePix-S5100.jpg

Don't think they make that one anymore.  The 5100 is several years old I think.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 09:59:49 PM »
I appreciate the advice dave but i am hoping to get a little longer battery life out of the li-ion battery vs the "AA" batteries. My camera now uses them and we have rechargeables and unfortunately it eats them up. The "AA" rechargeables seem to develope a memory way too fast which makes them drain even faster. I am really hoping that a battery pack will last longer between charges and hoping the battery will last longer before it needs replaced. I usually carry extra battery packs for any equipment I carry anyway including the camcorder.
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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 10:16:25 PM »
Here's what I would suggest.


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WoW! this toys worth over 15,000$, and only "L"lenses, what are you shooting? professional or just hobby? I got a T1i last year, but now they have the T2i on the pipe.
 Canon and Nikon are the best brands, for P&S digital also.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 10:58:19 PM »
WoW! this toys worth over 15,000$, and only "L"lenses, what are you shooting? professional or just hobby? I got a T1i last year, but now they have the T2i on the pipe.
 Canon and Nikon are the best brands, for P&S digital also.

Professional.  I do some freelance sports for the news rags and a few weddings a month.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 11:37:55 PM »
I looked into the Sony model you mentioned.  B&H is selling it for $225, which seems to be a pretty good value.  It is probably your best bet considering your battery needs.

I'd still stay away from the Kodak.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 12:33:37 AM »
Don't think they make that one anymore.  The 5100 is several years old I think.


aye they do...I got one about 2 mths ago

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 09:33:02 AM »
thanks dave

I appreciate you taking the time to look into that for me. There is no way i could have looked at those specs and been able to desipher them to figure out if it was worth it or not.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 10:07:19 AM »
Forget about all the other stuff.

I've done extensive testing on the latest point and shoot digital cameras. EXTENSIVE.

This is what you want, period. $244 should be the price once you add it to your cart.

It out performs everything in just about every way up to the $500+ range.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-ZS3-Digital-Stabilized-Black/dp/B001QFZMCO/ref=pd_cp_p_0
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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 10:18:55 AM »
"the Kodaks were junk.  But, admittedly that was quite a few years ago."

 Still are. After what looked like a decent run with their p&s pocket cameras only a
couple of years ago they've gone back to being junk. I regret buying a C713 and
C813 fro my wife.  They're crap. Unless you actually LIKE your cameras taking the
picture well after you press the shutter button.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 11:09:25 AM »

 Canon and Nikon are the best brands, for P&S digital also.

<- Resiting urge to rant against brand fan boys... ... ... ...







... Failed.

Do you have anything to back up that claim, besides fanboyism.  Remember its the brain that's behind the camera, that counts a whole lot more then the camera itself.  Truth is different brand have their own strengths and weaknesses, but in the end the camera is just a tool to help you create the image you want/need.  Different kind of tools work best for different people.  Sure Canon, and Nikon are great, but Sony, Pentax and Olympus also make great p&s as well.



True story, I was in Best Buy a few weeks ago helping my parents pick out a P&S camera for my sisters birthday.  The sales girl was trying to sell my parents a $130 Canon, meanwhile I was looking at everything they had in our price range.  I found a Nikon model with the same specs, except for IS, and a viewfinder, (but the VF was so small on the Canon nobody would use it anyhow) for only $85  

I asked the salesperson (she didn't know that I am a photographer) about it, and she said:

"Oh no, you don't want that, Canon's take better pictures."

me, " 'Just take better pictures' Why? How? They've got the same lens specs, same resolution, shutter lag seems the same."

her, "Well.. uh... ummm.. they just do, trust me."

me, "Is it the IS, cause she will be using it in daylight 90% of the time so that won't make a difference."

her, "No even in daylight Canon just takes better pictures."

me, "Better how? are they sharper? better color? better metering? White balance? JPEG processor?"

her, "I don't know really, they're just better."

me, "Really.. Umm... OK then, thanks for the help"

her, "Ummm... I'm gonna go help this gentleman now.  Let me know it you need anything" walks away.

Anyways out of the 2 you mentioned I would go with the Sony over Kodak as well.  Kodak makes GREAT sensors, (they make the sensor for the new Leica M9 which is amazing from the opinions I've read) but I'm not to confident in the quality of their overall products.

For P&S, I would say as long as you stick with any of the well known brands -Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus- that fit in your budget, and have the features you want would suit you fine.  Though my brothers Canon p&s just crapped out on him after only 3 months, stripped the gears that drive the zoom, but that's probably a statistical anomaly (I hope).

Try them out, sometimes it's the subtle things that can make you love or hate a camera, like the shutter lag, or menu interface, or button placement, or grip.
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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 11:16:05 AM »
Forget about all the other stuff.

I've done extensive testing on the latest point and shoot digital cameras. EXTENSIVE.

This is what you want, period. $244 should be the price once you add it to your cart.

It out performs everything in just about every way up to the $500+ range.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-ZS3-Digital-Stabilized-Black/dp/B001QFZMCO/ref=pd_cp_p_0

That looks like a great little camera too.  I didn't meant to leave Panasonic off my list, sorry.  I just forget about them since they're not really in the SLR game.

If you want a small camera and really great image quality go with the micro 4/3rds system ala Panasonic G1.  I've never used one, but folks that have rave  about them.  You get SLR quality interchangeable lenses on a body about half the size.  But they would be in the $500+ range.

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Re: looking for a camera
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 11:46:23 AM »
I have the panasonic DMC-TZ7 (may be called DMC-ZS3 in the US) and its brillant!

I got it from my missus as a xmas present because i seldom want to haul the big SLR camera around. Below iso 200 and even 400 it rivals the nikon slr with the standard lens. Beacuse its so easy to carry i prolly wont use the SLR much anymore unless im taking pictures around the house.