Nvidia GF100

[Skuzzy]

Specifically, ATI has gone with open standards and NVidia has chosen proprietary API's.  Proprietary is all well and good when you are on top of your game, but when you drop the ball, ala Fermi, it can hurt you.

[skribetm]

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/Gallery/170368,nvidia-gtx480-disassembly-guide.aspx/17

[Boozeman]

Yet another delay:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18208/34/

Skuzzy, it looks like you might have been right after all...meaning the test samples that have been send out are not representative of the cards that will hit the stores.
Maybe we are looking at pretty marketing stunt release with little to none relevance to the actual product. 

[Bronk]

Yet another delay:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18208/34/

Skuzzy, it looks like you might have been right after all...meaning the test samples that have been send out are not representative of the cards that will hit the stores.
Maybe we are looking at pretty marketing stunt release with little to none relevance to the actual product. 

Marketing stunt? Looks more like fraud IMO.

[Boozeman]

Well, at least Nvidia keeps up the confusion. We will see how these changes actually affect the cards - maybe minor things maybe, major things. But I think ist sure that the cards the test sites got are very much cherry picked to give the best picture - maybe not performance wise but in regard to core voltage / heat /noise to run at that performance level these will probably be better that the actual retail cards.   

[Ghastly]

Marketing stunt? Looks more like fraud IMO.

Remember, up to this point EVERYTHING has been under an NDA  - with everything subject to change prior to release.  Any information out there has been "leaked". In short, NVidia has promised nothing, and delivered nothing - and so there's no basis for fraud.

Disappointment - Sure! Distrust, perhaps. But Fraud?  No.

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[Bronk]

Remember, up to this point EVERYTHING has been under an NDA  - with everything subject to change prior to release.  Any information out there has been "leaked". In short, NVidia has promised nothing, and delivered nothing - and so there's no basis for fraud.

Disappointment - Sure! Distrust, perhaps. But Fraud?  No.

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Good point... Wonder how many fan bois will be sucked in though.

[Boozeman]

Reviews are out!

Well there we have it. Its a bit faster overall than the 5870, but this comes with extreme power consumption, extreme noise and very hot hardware. I think "Thermi" nails it better than "Fermi". On the upside, under DX11 with lots of tesselation, this card really kicks 5870 bellybutton - but in all other scenarios...not so much.


 

[Ack-Ack]

Reviews are out!

Well there we have it. Its a bit faster overall than the 5870, but this comes with extreme power consumption, extreme noise and very hot hardware. I think "Thermi" nails it better than "Fermi". On the upside, under DX11 with lots of tesselation, this card really kicks 5870 bellybutton - but in all other scenarios...not so much.


  

Its performance compared to the ATI 5870 isn't all that much and I wouldn't consider it to be kicking its ass.  

DX11 tests comparisons and it only beat the ATI 5970 in one area when using extreme tessellation.

While the GTX 480 can be called the world's fastest GPU, the ATI 5970 is still the world's fastest video card and pretty much beats the GTX 480 in most areas. The price point is also going to be up to 40% above that of ATI's flagship card.  All in all, ATI still retains the crown.

GTX and ATI chart comparison


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[BoilerDown]

Here's another review that correlates with what everyone has been predicting:

(Linked directly to the conclusions page)
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/8

They review the 470, 480 and 480 SLI... only one of the three breaks any new ground, along the bank.

[oneway]

AnandTech has a write up on the 480/470....

"NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470: 6 Months Late, Was It Worth the Wait?"

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783

[Kazaa]

Dammmmmmmmm, not bad at all.

The 480 is £50-£70 cheaper then the 5970 and is close in performance.

[Skuzzy]

Just keep in mind these cards may not represent what will actually be shipped.  It is still a design with many problems.

[Bronk]

Shades of geforce 5800....

[Boozeman]

Shades of geforce 5800....

More like 5800 reloaded.
Funny though, the 5800 series at ATI is a full success...

What worries me most about Fermi are the temps. Note that most reviewers do not have their test system installed in a case - unlike the customer. But even in such an unrealistic and favoring situation the Fermis run very hot. 95 C is reached regularly in heavy gaming, and the GPU throttles power at 105 C. Now ad summer like ambient temperatures, and non Fermi certified case (yeah, there are Fermi certified cases - apparently for good reason) with a less that optimal airflow, and you have a card that hits its limiter all the time - or worse.

A German review site did indeed broke a Fermi during testing, and another almost, simply by running Folding@home. There was a bug in the fan control software, which prevented that the fan spool up properly. The results were 112 C GPU temp and the screen went black, but the card was still crunching and and heating up. Probably only the quick manual reset the editor did save that card. And this was a GTX470, which runs a bit cooler than the 480.       

Fermi is a mess.