Alacrity PC

[maddafinga]

I used to use FSAutostart when I had XP and enjoyed it greatly.  I was usually able to get down to 18 processes running and it was great.  Since I built the new box though and am using Win7 64bit I looked at changing to Alacrity.  The problem then was that looking at the Alacrity website, he says that it's made for up to Vista but doesn't mention Win7 at all.  So does anyone use it with any success along with Windows 7?  Is 7 similar enough that Alacrity will still be right about services and the like?   I'd like to use it, the gamebooster really just isn't cutting it at all.  I can't seem to get down below 40 processes running before I start up AH. 

Oddly my hit percentage has just gone to absolute crap since the upgrade, and I'm beginning to suspect that it's rubber bullets due to too many processes.  I may just suck too, that's a real possibility.  But of course, if that's the case, then rubber bullets won't help any at all.  Anyone have any input on this?

[TequilaChaser]

do you have vsync turned off or turned on?

make sure vsync is turned ON / or forced on....... ALWAYS

40 processes on Windows 7 seems pretty good to me........ ( although I have not tweaked my win 7 Ult 64 bit, like I have in winXP where I am at 18 processes when AH is running..........and I never have used either of those programs to turn stuff off, on this PC build )

hope this helps

[maddafinga]

do you have vsync turned off or turned on?

make sure vsync is turned ON / or forced on....... ALWAYS

40 processes on Windows 7 seems pretty good to me........ ( although I have not tweaked my win 7 Ult 64 bit, like I have in winXP where I am at 18 processes when AH is running..........and I never have used either of those programs to turn stuff off, on this PC build )

hope this helps

Oh yeah, vsynch is forced on through AH.  I have it set to ap controled through my Nvidia software. 


See I don't even know how many processes should be running in win7.  40 seemed awfully high to me, I had been used to getting my XP down to 18 before running AH.  (Technically 19 I guess, if you count the TrackIR software too.)

Maybe I'm just having a bad gunnery slump...  Though I did start to feel a little better in my gunnery last night towards the end of the night.  I haven't been flying much lately, perhaps I'm just a little bit off.  Not much, but just enough to cost me kills. 

What really chaps me is getting shot down by someone I've missed one or more killing shots on, had the shot lined up, and executed properly, but just missed with the bullets.  That just bugs the hell out of me.

[guncrasher]

processes in win7 should be around 35.  40 is actually good. 

semp

[Chalenge]

Mr Salter has said that Win7 is basically the same OS and there should not be a need to update Alacrity.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

If you just built a new computer running win7 you'll probably do more damage than anything else trying to tweak down your processes. Doesn't the game run with full fps out of the box?

Don't fix what ain't already broken.

[maddafinga]

If you just built a new computer running win7 you'll probably do more damage than anything else trying to tweak down your processes. Doesn't the game run with full fps out of the box?

Don't fix what ain't already broken.

Well, that's kind of hard for me to say because I'm still using the old vid card.  My frames are better than they were for sure, but still not great.  The bottleneck is that old 8600gt, but the new card arrives this week.  I should be just fine once it gets here.  I just was thinking about it not as a fps issue but a rubber bullets thing.  It may make no difference whatsoever though.  If 35-40 is good for Win7 then I may well just not mess with it, I don't know.  I still can't help but feel like I could get the processes and services leaned down some, and that couldn't do anything but help, even if only a little. 

[Chalenge]

If you are having trouble at 35-40 processes then you probably dont have the horsepower Win7 needs and maybe a dual boot with XP would be better for you.

[maddafinga]

If you are having trouble at 35-40 processes then you probably dont have the horsepower Win7 needs and maybe a dual boot with XP would be better for you.

Well, like I say, it's certainly possible that the trouble is just me being in a bad gunnery slump. 

This new box I've built is actually pretty salty with the exception of the vid card, and I have a new one of those on the way, a HD5850.

Right now I'm running:  ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX
                                   
                                   AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

                                   G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

                           

Just copied and pasted from my invoice.  I'm also running a 1tb WD Caviar Black hdd and a Seagate Barracuda with the exact same specs.  I put it together and installed the Win7 all at the same time and everything seems to be working flawlessly.  It just seemed a big difference to me to go from 18 processes in XP to 40 in 7.  That coupled with the sort of sudden drop in my hit percentage made me a bit suspicious. 

Of course, I know that correlation does not equal causation, but it sure makes it worth taking a look at things. 

Sadly, it appears simply to be just bad gunnery on my part lately.  I still may give the Alacrity a shot though.  I think I can do better with it than I can with the Gamebooster.   

I do very much appreciate all the help here, even though it all points to my own ineptitude as the real culprit.   

[Kermit de frog]

Out of curiosity, you say you have ~40 process running in Win7, but how many "handles' are running.

[maddafinga]

Out of curiosity, you say you have ~40 process running in Win7, but how many "handles' are running.

Well there are three user accounts on the puter (I'm trying to get it worked out that it's mine and only mine and nobody else uses it at all) but only two of them are really used at all.  Still, before I play, I log the other one off, then reboot before running game booster and trimming processes.  So three handles, but only one at the times that I play AH. 

[TequilaChaser]

Out of curiosity, you say you have ~40 process running in Win7, but how many "handles' are running.

I was waiting to see if Kermit was going to explain what he meant by how many "handles" running.....

unlike WinXP where one would use CTRL/ALT/DEL or go to START/RUN/taskman for Task Manager

you can get more resourceful information in Windows 7 by going to START/search program & files/ and typing in "resmon" instead

for example: by doing as I have just said and typing in resmon  in the START/programs & files/  then clicking on it

I am able to view the following:
- Processes   ( my untweaked Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit has 36 processes running at Idle )

- Services ( I have a total of 64 Services either running, set to automatic or set to manual ( note: regardless of what they are set to they all say Running, I have many more Services, but they are listed as STOPPED )

- Associated Handles ( I have a total of 1,505 associated handles )

NOTE: Associate handles are listed as the following types:

ALPC Port
Desktop
Directory
Event
File
Job
Key
Mutant ( <---mainly deals with Cache, temp files, temporary internet files , etc... )
Section
Symboliclink
Window Station

Associated Modules: ( similar results to those of Associated handles, although if I remember what I researched this deals more with processes running............ BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS )

one should do their own research, when wanting to learn how to TWEAK their OS.........

as I posted earlier, I have not bothered with installing FSAutoStart or Alacrity PC on this PC I am using , that I built back in Summer of 2008........ I prefer to research myself, read up on & learn about the internal workings of the OS I am using, and then Tweak my OS manually..........heck doing so means I have 1 less program running than I would if I used something like a "Game Booster" or "Program Killer" to do the work for me )

a very good website, that I have used in the past to help me start out learning what is and is not OK to shut down on windows OS's is:

www.blackviper.com

I am sure their are several other Great websites with great info........ I only listed BlackViper's website as a starting point


I hope this helps & is of some value to those using Windows 7........

WARNING: TWEAK AT YOUR OWN RISK

edit: this has been edited to fix TC's lacking typing skills 

[FLS]

Madda I've used Alacrity with Win7 with no problems but I stopped using it because I wasn't seeing any advantage to it. I typically run about 45 processes and I haven't noticed a gunnery difference.

[maddafinga]

Thanks guys.  Just yesterday I started going through the processes and reading Black Viper's site and tweaking a little bit.  So far it's looking like a lot of stuff that should be done, I had already done, so yay me! 

Seriously though, it doesn't seem that much different than it was in XP, and I'm not uncomfortable tweaking on it a little bit.  I figure that I should be able to get down into the 30s now for game time.  When I can get the girlfriend's kid her own computer, and kill off the other user accounts and remove that damnable parental control program that just won't stay killed while I play games, then I may be able to hit low 30s perhaps. 

At the very least, I figure that it can never hurt to learn more about your os and how it works. 

By all appearances, the gunnery problem is nothing but a slump of my very own.  Hoping that it starts to work itself out before this scenario is over. 

[Chalenge]

Alacrity is intended to be used as a manual tweaking tool guys. You must do research at blackviper and determine which of the processes and 'extra programs' you can shut down. No two systems are the same once you start bolting on extra software and 'protection.' Once you learn how to use Alacrity it makes it quick and easy to go from one configuration to another (after all its just one click).