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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #75 on: March 07, 2010, 01:24:46 PM »
Die Hard don't believe every map that you see that shows the "alleged" wide spread availability of cellular telephone service all over the nation. My parents live just 45 minutes from I-65 here in Alabama and their cell phone service is non-existent in their home area. They aren't the only ones and it is that was for 20-30 minutes driving time on the highways around them.

Also satellite service is still cost prohibitive for most people living and working in rural areas. So don't go there. While I am sure they are going about it correctly with a limited or transparent DRM system...it still limits my ability to have fun on my time or when I have time available. No thanks Ubisoft!
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2010, 01:28:16 PM »
Instead of going after the pirates, let's just impose restrictions on everyone to make it more difficult and inconvenient to use the software.

In what way is it more difficult and inconvenient?
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2010, 01:40:57 PM »
Also satellite service is still cost prohibitive for most people living and working in rural areas.

If you can afford satellite TV you can afford satellite broadband. You need the same equipment (a dish and a box). The subscription starts at around $50 a month depending on provider and speed plan (WildBlue has a $36/month offer right now).

If you can't afford $50 bucks a month how can you afford buying games? And if you can't afford buying games why should Ubisoft consider your needs?
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2010, 01:44:40 PM »
Because 50 dollars is a one time purchase of a game, and could have been saved up for many months of pay.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #79 on: March 07, 2010, 01:44:48 PM »
In what way is it more difficult and inconvenient?

difficult:  Today, I start SH3 on my computer, go to single player mode and play.  No internet, no login ids, nothing. Just play.

SH5:  Start SH5  then, A:  if I'm on my home network I log into their website ( or it may be automated..whatever ) and play my single player mode.
                               B:  If I'm not on my home network, and am on a laptop or some computer somewhere that isn't in range of wifi internet, I have to interface my cellphone via bluetooth, cable or god-knows what sort of hardware to connect to the Ubi-Motherland to play?  I don't even know how to do that.. of if I even CAN with the hardware I own.  

That would qualify as difficult.

inconvenient: To be able to use the cellphone provider that my family uses ( Verizon ) I would have to pay $30/month additional online fee to connect in to the internet with the phone.. PLUS, and additional $30/month to connect my cellphone to my computer for data transfer 'feature' fee that the leeches charge.

That would qualify as inconvenient


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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #80 on: March 07, 2010, 01:48:48 PM »
When an Internet connection is interrupted, you have a rock on your desk called a "software license" you paid for but cannot make use of.  That is the difficult and inconvenient part.

Making it an Internet connection a requirement for a game which does not need an Internet connection in order to actually play the game is a DRM method I will not support and there is no amount of rationalization which will persuade me otherwise.
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #81 on: March 07, 2010, 01:57:37 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 06:43:27 AM by Skuzzy »

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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #82 on: March 07, 2010, 02:09:37 PM »
SH5:  Start SH5  then, A:  if I'm on my home network I log into their website ( or it may be automated..whatever ) and play my single player mode.

It's automated.


B:  If I'm not on my home network, and am on a laptop or some computer somewhere that isn't in range of wifi internet, I have to interface my cellphone via bluetooth, cable or god-knows what sort of hardware to connect to the Ubi-Motherland to play?  I don't even know how to do that.. of if I even CAN with the hardware I own.

Do you play games outside your own home? Do you ever play games on your laptop while not being in range of a wifi?

I have one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnO0KT1e-_8

I also have a broadband subscription on my iPhone and can tether it to any blue tooth equipped PC.

I travel a lot so I consider these things essential work tools.

It's not rocket science.


inconvenient: To be able to use the cellphone provider that my family uses ( Verizon ) I would have to pay $30/month additional online fee to connect in to the internet with the phone.. PLUS, and additional $30/month to connect my cellphone to my computer for data transfer 'feature' fee that the leeches charge.

Have you checked with other service providers?
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #83 on: March 07, 2010, 02:16:41 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 06:43:44 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #84 on: March 07, 2010, 02:24:00 PM »
Why would you need fast wireless internet to play SH5? Do you actually play games at any GPS coordinates on Earth, or just your little islands out there in the Pacific?

No... everyone cannot afford this. However they are such an insignificant demographic that the loss of their business is insignificant to the gaming industry, and the increased revenue from curbing piracy more than makes up for it.  If you are in such dire straits that you can't afford $50 a month then playing games is perhaps not what you should be spending your time on.

I never said fast. There area many places NO WIFI other than the 3G service through a cell phone exists here.

And more people are in that line where they cannot really afford that extra $50. College students are a great example. Of course, you strike me as the type who sided with the bankers when the economy went down, saying they did NOTHING wrong. As soon as I find my ignore list, you get to be the first name on it! You're disgusting.

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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #85 on: March 07, 2010, 02:30:20 PM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 06:44:10 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #86 on: March 07, 2010, 02:44:39 PM »

Do you play games outside your own home? Do you ever play games on your laptop while not being in range of a wifi?

Yes, SH3, SH4, Simcity

Have you checked with other service providers?

Where we live, Verizon has the best coverage.  We had Sprint when we started but there are dead spots in places like in the gym where my daughter does gymnastics where we spent a lot of time.

We have cellphones to communicate in times of emergency or need. Not as an extension of our office.

So changing providers just to pay less to play a game in solo mode doesn't make much more sense.

« Last Edit: March 07, 2010, 02:46:47 PM by APDrone »
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #87 on: March 07, 2010, 02:47:17 PM »
It's your choice. That's the beauty of a free economy. :)
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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2010, 02:51:52 PM »

 What do you think Ubisoft considers their priority: Making more money by curbing piracy, or considering the wishes of people who can't really afford to buy their games?

Welcome to the real world.

thanks for clearing up their business policy, i won't be buying their game because of that.

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Re: Silent Hunter 5
« Reply #89 on: March 07, 2010, 02:56:34 PM »
thanks for clearing up their business policy, i won't be buying their game because of that.

Beauty of a free economy.

By the way, can you name a company that make considerations for people who can't afford their product/services?
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