Silent Hunter 5

[Skuzzy]

Doubt it.

People said the same of Steam.

Took a few years for people to buy into it but they did.  I'd be interested to see the statistics on PC games purchased via retail v. online.

Bet their closer than they've ever been.

That's only because the young numpties of today are more than willing to give up whatever they need to give up in order to satisfy some short-term desire.

I am one who has been turned away by the gaming industry and their insatiable need/desire to treat me like a criminal.  I do not trust any software they create to not totally wreck my personal computer.  Call me whatever you feel you need to, but there is a basis for that belief.  At one time, I used to spend $500.00+/year on games.  I have not spent a nickle on a game in 3+ years and will never do it again.  That is what DRM/Steam has done for me.

At the end of the day, it simply is not worth the worry.

[Fishu]

Doubt it.

People said the same of Steam.

Took a few years for people to buy into it but they did.  I'd be interested to see the statistics on PC games purchased via retail v. online.

Steam is a whole different thing than this gotta-stay-online-to-play-offline BS. It's an online store, not a copy protection per se. Though, I prefer boxed games over digital copies; I'd be willing to pay for good boxed material.

Although I don't normally use Steam, because their prices have a huge euro extra. I can get a boxed copy for 4/5th to 3/4th of the price on Steam. For example SH5 is 50 euros on Steam while the boxed version is 32 to 33 euros from online or 44 euros from a local store. The collector edition is a bit cheaper than the boxed version, but it doesn't have the box or other materials - just the overpriced digital stuff (including a strategy guide, which used to be referred as "manual" in the past, whereas the manual nowadays is more often totally useless than useful). I only used Steam during the christmas discounts when they had huge discounts that I really couldn't pass - nor would i really care what happens to couple of euros.

[bozon]

So there is two versions of SH4?. Is the first one in german subs and the second one the wolves of the pacific thing? If so.. who would you recomend i get?

I think you are confused with Grey wolves (GW3.0) which is a highly recommended mod for SHIII.

[jdbecks]

is the multiplayer coop?

wow amazon have droped the price in the UK to £12.95 for silent hunter 5

[OOZ662]

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific is American fleet boats in the Pacific. Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific: U-Boat Missions is an expansion pack that adds (buggy) U-Boat campaigns in the Atlantic. The only reason I bought the latter is due to all of the top mod packs (Trigger Maru Overhaul [that's the one I use], Real Fleet Boat, ect.) require it. Never done a mission in the Atlantic myself.

[IronDog]

There is a mod to make SH Wolves of the Pacific into a Atlantic campaign.Operation Monsoon.I tried it.I prefer skippering a Balao class sub.
ID

[Serenity]

So there is two versions of SH4?. Is the first one in german subs and the second one the wolves of the pacific thing? If so.. who would you recomend i get?

There is an add-on to SHIV (Pacific) which lets you use a U-boat in the pacific.

I like the premise of using an American boat, but the gameplay, campaign, and user interface of SHIV is actually worse than the old SHII I used to play.

[Nilsen]

Aye harr...

I saw 2 versions on sale in the store but i guess one is just the add-on 

[Nefarious]

SH3 with the GWX 3.0 (Grey Wolves Expansion 3.0) has kept me playing SH3 way beyond its normal shelf life.

it is a super mod with super PDF manual.

I recommend buying/downloading SH3 and downloading GWX3.0 if you are looking for the Atlantic U-Boot campaign.

[Nilsen]

Ive got SHIII and played it for 100s of hours. Love it.

That was before i got a lappy with vista. First i had trouble with the gamshadow or whatever its called. Secondly i have a problem running the game. When its installed and im starting it up i can hear the game in the background but the mouse cursor just draws many more cursors on the screen and the sub that moves across the bottom of the screen to indicate that its loading just turns into some brownish foggy bar.

IIIIIIII dunno if its a vista of hardware problem. If it is a vista problem its the first issue ive had with vista actually

[Gixer]

That's only because the young numpties of today are more than willing to give up whatever they need to give up in order to satisfy some short-term desire.
That is what DRM/Steam has done for me.

At the end of the day, it simply is not worth the worry.

Odd comments from a technical guy to be parnoid about software taking over and destroying his beloved PC.

Yeah I'd be one of those numpties, because I like Steam and I don't buy a game unless it is on Steam.. I like being able to go online, download a game and play it without having to worry about the DVD getting a scratch and never be able to load again. Or having to make sure DVD X is always inserted before starting. My PC and laptop now don't even have DVD players, with fast internet and USB sticks they are old tech.


<S>...-Gixer

[OOZ662]

Odd comments from a technical guy to be parnoid about software taking over and destroying his beloved PC.

Just because we know how to "fix" them doesn't mean we want to spend hours doing it.

[Gixer]

Just because we know how to "fix" them doesn't mean we want to spend hours doing it.

Then you must be trying to "fix" what isn't actually broken because all my years  i've never experienced a game decide to take over the PC and destroy it. Only time I've achieved that is by overclocking and I've corrupted the data or fried something.

In my past profession in IT with servers and mainframes, that's a different story but more often then not it's due to poor projects and/or badly implemented changes.


<S>...-Gixer

[OOZ662]

It's not that it's broken or trying to take over, it's that they perform other actions than being a game.

[Gixer]

It's not that it's broken or trying to take over, it's that they perform other actions than being a game.

It only takes actions if you let it. People follow the sheep and get paranoid over what they don't fully understand. They get paranoid about their gmail web account becuase they read somewhere on internet that it can be tracked/hacked. Yet happily download GB of movies and music from torrents a month.

They get paranoid because Steam might somehow secretly record system specs of their PC and save it to a database. Yet they throw out their monthly credit card bills with ordinary trash or have a laptop waiting to be stolen only secured by desktop logon.   

It's just a frig game, if you don't understand by a XBOX.


<S>...-Gixer