Whats wrong with these screenshots?

[Spikes]

Like I said: "really, really good fighter skills", but still a dork.

Many explanations to what you are saying. He isn't using the 262 for it's intended purpose...it wasn't meant to turn well but he still does it and does it well...just like the 234 wasn't meant to turn with fighters, but I still do it. Does that make me a dork?

[Ardy123]

<--- 109 'Dork'   I do like 'ho'ing goons

[Crash Orange]

Many explanations to what you are saying. He isn't using the 262 for it's intended purpose...it wasn't meant to turn well but he still does it and does it well...just like the 234 wasn't meant to turn with fighters, but I still do it. Does that make me a dork?

If you make a habit of using the external view to fire your tail gun at them, yes, you're being a dork when you do that.

But everyone acts like a dork sometimes. The difference is you and I and Ardy and most everyone else don't get anywhere near the majority of our kills that way; grizz does. His k/d ratio is 45:1 in 262s and 163s, 7.4:1 in [edit] all other fighters. He could be a really, really good player and have really, really good scores, but instead he chooses to spend most of his time score-whoring like a dork and gets championship scores - and then has the gall to criticize other people's game play.

Anyway, I'm outta here; I'll read replies but I doubt any good purpose will be achieved by my posting further in this thread.  

[Spikes]

How else do you expect someone to aim the guns? The black screened periscope?

It's everyone's 15 bucks, Grizz likes to fly 262s, that's his choice. Criticize all you want but complaining won't change his mind around, it'll just encourage him to do it more. That's how I feel when guys complaining about my 234's tail guns.

[WWhiskey]

Jeez ,   the game is for entertainment, and apparently this board too ,,
if you don't like bombers taking down your hangers, spend some time killing ords, thats the way it has been done for years,
 if you don't like fighters messing up you base capture, bomb the hangers!
 and yes i think moving strat targets was not something that needed to be done and it has brought more bombers to the bases, not sure why that happened, i did not realize there was a problem with them!
now for a long time people have been asking for indestructible Vh's in tank town, not once has it ever happened, so why on earth do you think you will get anything more?
if score did not matter, there would not be one.
if bases were not supposed to be taken, you would not be able.
if it was a Fighter combat game, then why are there GV's and bombers?
 by the way you would lose alot of players if there were not GV's and bombers,,, not everyone is a fighter pilot, why give up that revenue? it helps to pay for a very cool game and the ability to do all the things in it.
Furball lake provides that all intensive "furball fight" you are asking for, no gv's, no bombers, just pure fights with an option to go one/one with anyone you want, and that option is protected by HTC, notice the message when you go into the D.A.
 the main arena is for people with like minded goals to wage "fake war"  , and any or all aspects of it,,,, as well as others who only want to dogfight ,,,, and others, who only want to run up there score, and they have that ability as well.
 some can't dogfight, some can't bomb, and some can't GV, but they all pay to play the game. I do none of it well, but i like all of it. and i hope any changes in the game make it more immersive, more control of the plane, better control of the GV's and more command ability of the CV's, more planes, more tanks and more things to do, not less!!!
+1 on putting the strat targets back where they used to be tho!

[DREDIOCK]

If you make a habit of using the external view to fire your tail gun at them, yes, you're being a dork when you do that.

But everyone acts like a dork sometimes. The difference is you and I and Ardy and most everyone else don't get anywhere near the majority of our kills that way; grizz does. His k/d ratio is 45:1 in 262s and 163s, 7.4:1 in [edit] all other fighters. He could be a really, really good player and have really, really good scores, but instead he chooses to spend most of his time score-whoring like a dork and gets championship scores - and then has the gall to criticize other people's game play.

Anyway, I'm outta here; I'll read replies but I doubt any good purpose will be achieved by my posting further in this thread.  

I've fought Grizz.
News flash.
He IS a really really good player.

He can do some rather astounding things in the D9 as well

[kilo2]

How else do you expect someone to aim the guns? The black screened periscope?

It's everyone's 15 bucks, Grizz likes to fly 262s, that's his choice. Criticize all you want but complaining won't change his mind around, it'll just encourage him to do it more. That's how I feel when guys complaining about my 234's tail guns.

It is his 15 bucks. But crash orange has a point grizz calling out lame game play is hypocritical. He has said something to the effect of he doesn't get below 400 mph. BnZ run or "egress" do it all over again that is lame.

[uptown]

  i'd hardly call a 262 easy mode. You ever notice now folks swarm to the jets to kill them anyway possible? It's a job just keeping track of everyone wanting to kill you.

[SPKmes]

Well from an untrained eye, I would say they aren't too bad...there is a little blurring on a couple of them...just a smidge of focus adjustment and you'd be fine....perhaps a little light in the back ground wouldn't go a miss aswell. I did like how you caught the fire and smoke more by adjusting the placement of the clip board...all in though...very nice. 

[grizz441]

Spoken by a dweeb I've seen maybe twice outside a 262 or 163. Yeah, grizz, if you're stupid enough to get anywhere near in front of my guns in your 262, or to get in front of me and on the deck trying to vulch me on takeoff, I'm gladly going to HO you, ram you, or do whatever it takes to blow your perk points, mess up your score whoring, and stop you landing the 8 kills you got against people who never had a remote chance of fighting back. You're living proof that a guy can have really, really good fighter skills and still play like a dork. If I got my kills by sneaking around ambushing resupply goons in a 163, I'd be ashamed to show my face in the arena, but I guess some people have no shame.

 
Anytime I see a giant red swarm attacking undefended bases I roll my jet.  No wonder you see me so often, that's your standard operating procedure.  Would you rather have me turn fight your entire squadron at once?  I bet you would, so after you killed me, you could fire a salute on open channel with a big grin and a story of how you owned me.

[Steve]

Anytime I see a giant red swarm attacking undefended bases I roll my jet.  No wonder you see me so often, that's your standard operating procedure.  Would you rather have me turn fight your entire squadron at once?  I bet you would, so after you killed me, you could fire a salute on open channel with a big grin and a story of how you owned me.

You don't fly high enough.  Pretty much  every time I run into these guys they are orbiting a base in a high swarm of D9's. Cull one of them and they will dive straight towards their base at flank speed, hoping someone will dive from the heavens and clear them.

[Crash Orange]

You don't fly high enough.  Pretty much  every time I run into these guys they are orbiting a base in a high swarm of D9's. Cull one of them and they will dive straight towards their base at flank speed, hoping someone will dive from the heavens and clear them.

Argh, had to break my own rule to clear up this misconception. Seriously. You are confusing the Rejects with another squad. We have our faults but what you're describing isn't one of them. I fly a D9 maybe 2 or 3 times a month and when I do it's usually fast on the deck; nobody in our squad flies them all that much. If you're seeing a squad that's hanging around in high D9s all the time, it isn't us. I don't much care if you and grizz want to insult me or my squad, I expected some return fire - but I do mind if you insult us based on something someone else did.

[Steve]

Argh, had to break my own rule to clear up this misconception. Seriously. You are confusing the Rejects with another squad. We have our faults but what you're describing isn't one of them. I fly a D9 maybe 2 or 3 times a month and when I do it's usually fast on the deck; nobody in our squad flies them all that much. If you're seeing a squad that's hanging around in high D9s all the time, it isn't us. I don't much care if you and grizz want to insult me or my squad, I expected some return fire - but I do mind if you insult us based on something someone else did.

It may not be you personally, but it's your squad. Could be anecdotal though, it was over the past 3 or 4 days.

[Motherland]

The D-9 is the third most heavily used aircraft in the squad lead by 1DOGFITE. But you guys have 38 members split across 4 squads, with 27 of them in the 'command wing' (which is the one headed by dogfite) so I didn't look up all of them...

[Tarstar]

Jeez ,   the game is for entertainment, and apparently this board too ,,
if you don't like bombers taking down your hangers, spend some time killing ords, thats the way it has been done for years,
 if you don't like fighters messing up you base capture, bomb the hangers!
 and yes i think moving strat targets was not something that needed to be done and it has brought more bombers to the bases, not sure why that happened, i did not realize there was a problem with them!
now for a long time people have been asking for indestructible Vh's in tank town, not once has it ever happened, so why on earth do you think you will get anything more?
if score did not matter, there would not be one.
if bases were not supposed to be taken, you would not be able.
if it was a Fighter combat game, then why are there GV's and bombers?
 by the way you would lose alot of players if there were not GV's and bombers,,, not everyone is a fighter pilot, why give up that revenue? it helps to pay for a very cool game and the ability to do all the things in it.
Furball lake provides that all intensive "furball fight" you are asking for, no gv's, no bombers, just pure fights with an option to go one/one with anyone you want, and that option is protected by HTC, notice the message when you go into the D.A.
 the main arena is for people with like minded goals to wage "fake war"  , and any or all aspects of it,,,, as well as others who only want to dogfight ,,,, and others, who only want to run up there score, and they have that ability as well.
 some can't dogfight, some can't bomb, and some can't GV, but they all pay to play the game. I do none of it well, but i like all of it. and i hope any changes in the game make it more immersive, more control of the plane, better control of the GV's and more command ability of the CV's, more planes, more tanks and more things to do, not less!!!
+1 on putting the strat targets back where they used to be tho!

+1