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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 03:24:58 PM »
yeah man, the f-35 is a nice little rig for sure.

Altho i hear reports that most export version's (aswell as some of our versions) will not have internal guns,but a "gun pod" under the belly,kinda blows the stealth aspect away eh?

What also bothers me is the limited weapon load it can carry inside, they mostly packed it with fuel and sensors, leaving little for weapons, and if they sling weapons off the wings "like it can" then that blows away the stealth ability, what we need now,are stealth missiles.

heh, 1.2billion dollar missile, ill take uhm..6


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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 06:48:19 PM »
The conventional take off version (replaces the F-16) has an internal 25mm cannon, and four internal stations for ord. So it can back-up the F-22 in the air superiority role with four internal missiles and stealth. It can do the same job as the F-177 in the light stealth-bomber role. And with six external pylons it can do the job of the F-16 as a bomb truck... Useful when advanced anti-air and air-threats are nonexistent.

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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 03:19:20 AM »
The F35 is actually a stolen Russian design.  We just need to wait about ten years after the USAF fields its copies to see the original russian prototype mockup abandoned in a grassy field somewhere east of Moscow.
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 10:15:45 AM »
The F35 is actually a stolen Russian design.  We just need to wait about ten years after the USAF fields its copies to see the original russian prototype mockup abandoned in a grassy field somewhere east of Moscow.

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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 12:48:01 PM »
yeah man, the f-35 is a nice little rig for sure.

Altho i hear reports that most export version's (aswell as some of our versions) will not have internal guns,but a "gun pod" under the belly,kinda blows the stealth aspect away eh?

What also bothers me is the limited weapon load it can carry inside, they mostly packed it with fuel and sensors, leaving little for weapons, and if they sling weapons off the wings "like it can" then that blows away the stealth ability, what we need now,are stealth missiles.

heh, 1.2billion dollar missile, ill take uhm..6


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Just my thought on this. After watching that video maybe they aren't as concerned about stealth. That system was pretty amazing if it works as intended, eliminating some need for stealth. I'm sure depending on the role it's going to be used for they might choose to make it more or less stealthy.
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 01:19:11 PM »
I wonder how effective it would be to fire a missile at a target behind you. I am sure it would give them a good scare to think they are getting a missile lock on the F-35, then have a missile lock on them.

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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 04:42:14 PM »
Well i do know the aim-9x is one of the most advanced insane missiles ever devised, To say that thing gets a hard on for its target, is a HUGE understatement.

Still one of the only missiles that can go mach 3 in one direction, do a 180 and go mach 3 in a complete opposit direction and STILL track its target through heat, visual identifecation, gp's & inboard radar. (and probably other classified things)


The Aim-9x effectivly killed the "dog fighter" role,as no jet needs to turn anymore, and its only a matter of time before the sensors depict a full 180x180 field of view with or without the pilot even turning his head (and that assuming the next gen will eve HAVE a pilot) Willing to bet in the future we will see multiple unmanned scram jet aircraft,with the ability to launch advanced missiles at targets no humans will lay eyes on,with the exceptions of a camera or two or three.

Now the day we have a missile that is stealth, no one will see it coming,and if its anything like the aim-9x..it will not matter.


Willing to bet this will push the fight upto ever higher altitudes to the point of zero g space combat, afterall..when a military realises "he who command space,commands the planets" it will be another race for not ones nation, but the world. :rock "i clame russia in the name of mike."
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 04:55:39 PM »
LOL @ the amount of self-stroking going on in this thread.


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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 05:03:47 PM »
I'm sure it will quickly take the place of its predecessors as the #1 mishap aircraft in the U.S. military since it only has a single engine.  The Navy has lost its mind or been given the BGW on this aircraft.  2 engines should have been the first design requirement.
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2010, 05:26:23 PM »
Agreed on the engine thing, highly.

But these f-35 engines are way good, awesome power to weight ratio, the f-35 can fly longer faster and futher than any jet made yet "without Dt's" even the f-22 gulps fuel like a mad monster.


I think the f-35 will be a stepping stone to better,faster more capable unmanned scram jet stealth space craft or high high altitude crafts.



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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2010, 06:55:26 PM »
The Aim-9x effectivly killed the "dog fighter" role,as no jet needs to turn anymore,

We have heard that line before and the cost for it was big. I hope no one in the Pentagon feels the same way.
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2010, 08:00:25 PM »
Seems like the F-35 holds its own by itself, but for some reason it looks to me as if it can't multitask. As in, it NEEDS its wingman to do half the work, or are the extra jets just to make the video more fancy or more detailed?
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Re: F-35 Situational Awareness
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2010, 08:13:26 PM »
That line "Let the missle do the fighting" doesnt make it for me. Ive heard countless stories of the predators missing with Hellfires. I hope they train up those pilots still.
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