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Offline stickpig

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 08:14:47 PM »
There is no ENY situation where you get relegated to using .303s only. There are quite a number of high ENY planes with strong armament. It's not just a Tempest-or-HurriI situation.

190A8 2x30mm, 2x20mm, 2x 13mm - ENY 25
109F & G 20mm (Did you know that these two can turn with a Spit 16?) - ENY 30
109G14 30mm or 20mm - ENY 25
109K-4 30mm and fastest prop plane 8k-24k (yes, faster than a Temp) - ENY 20
Speaking of corsair: F4U-1, 6x0.50, ENY 25
P-47D-11: 8x .0.50, ENY 25
B-239: 4x 0.50 - ENY 30


ENY never forces you into a Hurri I or Spit I.. These birds are being used deliberately for fun only.

Go up against AKElfy in a 109F,,Dont care what your in...Most likely you will die.

Brewsters are as nasty as a Zero in the right hands.

Get a Hurri MK1 or Spit1 locked on your 6...You can't get away

So the whine about not being able to fly the fastest and the best really dosent hold water.
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 08:17:19 PM »
Spit 5 is my spit of choice...great little plane.....

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2010, 08:19:48 PM »
Spit 5 is my spit of choice...great little plane.....

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2010, 08:33:29 PM »

Appreciated, but how does this help when i'm finally in a alt and speed position to get the drop on a cannon corsair, but i have to make do with 0.303's, won't make me a better pilot, i'll just be more dead.

And i really couldn't give a toss about score, i just want to face guys on an equal footing.

Key word here is equal footing. Had a set of Bostons in late war was bounced by a f4u4 & a chog f4u4 takes out two drones. OK so now it's time to dog fight with a Boston get several hits on F4U4 pilot wound him he bugs out turn on chog he takes out left engine I work around him & shot him down?

So who was on equal footing? Certainly not me. I managed to flip the script because they were under the impression oh look Bostons meat on the table. The only way I learned how to do this was to go into early war & learn how to dog fight with it 1V1 & then go from there.  I still go into early war & practice it & it is a good bomber killer too :aok

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2010, 08:40:18 PM »
Key word here is equal footing. Had a set of Bostons in late war was bounced by a f4u4 & a chog f4u4 takes out two drones. OK so now it's time to dog fight with a Boston get several hits on F4U4 pilot wound him he bugs out turn on chog he takes out left engine I work around him & shot him down?

So who was on equal footing? Certainly not me. I managed to flip the script because they were under the impression oh look Bostons meat on the table. The only way I learned how to do this was to go into early war & learn how to dog fight with it 1V1 & then go from there.  I still go into early war & practice it & it is a good bomber killer too :aok

Thanks, i appreciate the support for the "its the pilot not the plane" statement. But honestly, how do you dogfight a jug in a boston, it out dives, out turns, out climbs and out accellerates you. I get mullered by bombers all the time because i'm too bad a shot and crap at diving shots, but if an a20 etc tries to dogfight i know they'll lose. How do you go about dogfighting a fighter in a slow bomber
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2010, 08:44:03 PM »
Thanks, i appreciate the support for the "its the pilot not the plane" statement. But honestly, how do you dogfight a jug in a boston, it out dives, out turns, out climbs and out accellerates you. I get mullered by bombers all the time because i'm too bad a shot and crap at diving shots, but if an a20 etc tries to dogfight i know they'll lose. How do you go about dogfighting a fighter in a slow bomber

I'll bet if you go up against cobia, or snaphook in an A20 you'll be the one to lose.
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2010, 08:54:26 PM »
why u so worried about score? score means crap. most of the best players in the game arent even in the top 100. LOL i challenged a top 20 to DA just a couple days ago and the guy wussed out. Score does not = skill.
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2010, 09:00:45 PM »
I'll bet if you go up against cobia, or snaphook in an A20 you'll be the one to lose.

Maybe so, but can anyone tell me why? or just that they're better thatn me which is the essence of this thread anyway?
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2010, 09:02:36 PM »
Thanks, i appreciate the support for the "its the pilot not the plane" statement. But honestly, how do you dogfight a jug in a boston, it out dives, out turns, out climbs and out accellerates you. I get mullered by bombers all the time because i'm too bad a shot and crap at diving shots, but if an a20 etc tries to dogfight i know they'll lose. How do you go about dogfighting a fighter in a slow bomber
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2010, 10:25:32 PM »
Why should I? It's not me who is asking to link ENY to skill.
he said score. not skill  :aok

and danny  :cry dont get ya far here
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2010, 10:28:54 PM »
Calm down to a frenzy, OK, so i exaggerated the Spit 1, but not the Spit 5. Not the Hurri MK1, I'm pretty poor no matter what the A/c, but i think that if you are going to limit aircraft choice, which i disagree with, it should be limited to the guys who obviously have more skills than the majority, and use that way to even the playing field, rather than limit the guys of every skill simply on the virtue of which virtual country they and their buddies are in.



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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2010, 10:33:55 PM »
Maybe so, but can anyone tell me why? or just that they're better thatn me which is the essence of this thread anyway?

They got that way by practicing & learning from their mistakes.  You will get better, it just takes time & AH has a steep learning curve.

On the score/skill thing.  Score represents how well you understand the game (i.e. gaming the game); for Pete's sake, I am ranked #10 in LW right now!  Which only shows I understand a tad about how to "do well" in AH.  Skill may be inferred from score, look at a player's k/d ratio and hit % in FTR & ATK modes; k/d & hit% are not the be-all/end-all to measure skill of course, just a rough guide (IMHO).

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2010, 11:11:05 PM »
Maybe so, but can anyone tell me why? or just that they're better thatn me which is the essence of this thread anyway?


Because they have a good understanding of what their plane is capable of, and what their opponents plane is capable of. They fly to their strengths and their opponents weakness. They got that way by fighting, and I don't mean making a high speed passes on a low and slow target. I'm talking about getting down and dirty fighting from the disadvantage and learning from their fights win or lose. For the most part you are not going to jump into AH and be an ace overnight it takes time and practice, lots of practice.

What time do you usually fly Danny? I'm not working right now so I could meet you in the TA and work with you if you like. I believe I'm GM -8.
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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2010, 11:42:26 PM »
quit flying for the horde and you wont have ENY problems  :aok

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Re: ENY AGAIN
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2010, 06:30:16 AM »
...or just that they're better thatn me which is the essence of this thread anyway?


I think instead of trying to handicap others, you should rather aim to improve yourself. Yes, it's the harder route, but in the end it will pay off.    :old: