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WW1 assesment of the planes
« on: March 11, 2010, 06:11:43 AM »
WW1 is brilliant well dont HTC.

Can anyone say what the strenghs and weaknesses of the 4 planes are yet.

Obviously in relative terms  :D
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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 06:52:50 AM »
Great stuff, a good combo of playability and good flight modelling. Only flew the Dr1 seriously the plane is as you'd expect super manoeuvrable  :devil
and very input intensive to get the best out of it, and gravity seems to play more of a part than 'e retention'. I love the way there is no escape once someone commits and no real option to BnZ.
I don't know if collisions from the rear will continue to be a problem or if its just with people getting used to the planes

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 08:13:21 AM »
so far I like the camel the most, it seems to have fairly good manoverability but also has some engine power to use more moves in the vertical, when I flew the DR1, it seemed to struggle other than turn fighting, but it might be because Im not familer with the planes
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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 08:39:01 AM »
I flew four different planes. The DR7 was easily the best all around plane. the Camel and DR1 had different strengths and weaknesses than some will will prefer.

The DR7:
Very stable. Its roll axis is much closer to the gun centerline which makes aiming much easier. Visibility is superior when looking forward and up and forward due to the low top wing position which enables the pilot see over the top wing. Good rudder control. Very predictible stall behavior. Turn rate is not as good as the DR1 but didn't find it deficient to any of the other palnes. good roll rate. Seemed to have the toughest construction. No glarring weaknesses

The S. Camel

Roll center is closer to the top wing which causes the plane to barrel-roll intead of roll. This make aiming more difficult than the DR7.  Visibility up-forward is very poor due to upper wing placement. Very easy to damage. Turn rate not as good as DR1. Power to weight seemed good. It was easy to get over the top and low speed. The visibility and high roll enter are real weaknesses.

DR1

Best turn rate by a significant amount. Slowest of the planes it seemed. Underpowered when going vertical. Slow roll rate.


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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 08:43:14 AM »
I'd have to agree with Vinkman.

D7 is almost the spit 16 equivilent.
Good all around plane with 500 rpg makes it a killer.

Dr1 for pure turn, but watch the D7's sneaking in your 6.

Camel is midway in turn between the Dr1 and the D7, but has light ammo load.

F2b has single forward gun, but it does have a rear gun that can be effective 400 and closer.
Turn a time or 2 with them, extend out, jump to gunner, rake him at 300, then jump back to pilot seat and turn again. Rinse and repeat.

All of them are easily capable of 3 - 7 kill sorties.
The limiting factor is SA, and collisions.

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 08:47:20 AM »
It is just a matter of time until the labels come out.

Will it be a run-DR7?

A Dr1-dweeb?

Maybe Cameltard.  Nice ring to that one.

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 09:05:39 AM »

Let's not get started on the uses for 'Fokker.'

Why not?
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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 09:13:25 AM »
I mostly flew the Camel last night but I did try all four planes.  I thought the turn rate stacked up as Dr I, Fb2, F1, DVII best to worse.

I couldn't hit a thing with the Dr I.  I couldn't figure out which site to use or if I should just aim for the middle so I parked it. I liked that the Fb2 had a front gun.  FI and DVII seemed about the same in terms of gunnery.  For someone like me who relies a lot on snapshots, while they are possible, saddling up seems like a much better idea here. 

For the plane I spent the most time in the yaw produced by the Camel's engine seemed to require me to line up a shot low turning left or high turning right (not sure I got that right).  The Camel has a hard time going over the top so I found that my tendency to want to Immel turned into a tendency to yoyo instead.  It turns pretty well to the right but needs a lot of rudder input to turn left and any quick change of direction in either direction requires a lot of rudder.  Rolling was also difficult.  Speaking of the engine, there were a couple of times last night that my engine started over-revving in level flight and I also pulled blackout at low speed on a few occasions.  Maybe I was pw'd and didn't know it. 

Despite it's flaws I love the Camel.  Very easy to get used to.



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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 09:27:29 AM »
The Camel has a hard time going over the top so I found that my tendency to want to Immel turned into a tendency to yoyo instead.  


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WW1Immelmann.jpg

thats a ww1 immelmann turn its different to the one we use in ww2

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 09:39:29 AM »
The Fb2 With a Gunner is a blast. Highly recommend it.  :aok :lol
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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 09:43:46 AM »
Will it be a run-DR7?

It's too slow at the altitudes we are fighting at for such a label. It's a whopping 3(!) mph faster than a Dr.I on the deck as well as at 3k

All planes 25% fuel, max speed in level flight, on deck:

Dr.I - 115mph
Camel - 115 mph
D.VII - 118 mph
F.2B - 123 mph

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 09:49:07 AM »
which of these planes have the best wicker work in regards to the chairs? :old:
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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 10:13:38 AM »
The camel has the nicest picnic basket.

DVII does seem to be the crowd favorite, and the DR1 isn't too far behind.


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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 10:15:01 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WW1Immelmann.jpg

thats a ww1 immelmann turn its different to the one we use in ww2

Thats interesting.  I didn't know that.

I'd call that a Chandelle.  (spelling?)

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Re: WW1 assesment of the planes
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 10:20:04 AM »
DVII does seem to be the crowd favorite, and the DR1 isn't too far behind.

Plane usage after 24 hours:

D.VII 42%
Dr.I 26%
F.1 22%
F.2B 10% (including gunner kills)
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