WWI flying with trackIR? (film request too)

[Redd]

I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.

Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.

Does trackir make you more effective do you think ?  or does it just feel more immersive ?

The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.

[CptTrips]

I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.

Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.

Does trackir make you more effective do you think ?  or does it just feel more immersive ?

The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.

It certainly takes some getting used to. 

In WWII, I was begining to wonder if it was worth it.  Mainly to the problems I had with the 6-view.  Hat switch actually seemed to work better there.

But in WWI, it flat out rocks in IMHO.

I will try making some fraps recordings if my frame rate will  handle it.  Iwas going to for a squadie anyway.

Regards,
Wab

[maddafinga]

I've tried trackir a few times, and I just can't seem to get it.

Hat views just keep coming up as quicker and more efficient , whether it be for scanning the sky (SA) or for positioning views in a dogfight.

Does trackir make you more effective do you think ?  or does it just feel more immersive ?

The other problem is my 2 favourite planes have woeful 6 views with trackir - but i'll leave that aside.

I don't think it makes me any more effective at all.  It is certainly more immersive, and you just have a smoother, more natural feeling flying around and looking at stuff than you do using hats.  I used hats for absolutely years, but I took right to the TIR.  It took my thumb a couple of weeks to let go of habits, and another two months to get the gunnery back down after switching, but I do completely love it.  I don't really have any problems with 6 views, not once I got my profile tweaked up properly.  The only real problem that I have is that plate at the top of Corsairs.  I can see my 6 just fine, but looking directly up during a fight is a pain, I have to lean forward and/or to the side to see the con and it's distracting.  I can still do it, but I end up focusing less naturally on flying and acm because I become aware of trying to see the con.  It stops just being totally natural and organic. 

I agree with Wabbit about the usefulness of TIR in ww1, it's fantastic.  I still love it in ww2 (not to mention all the extra buttons I get on my stick with it!) but I think it's essential in ww1.  You've got to see around so much structure in there.

Wab, please do post some fraps vids. 

[ebfd11]

Lol now I have seen it all "Baron Von Fluffy bunny" you owe me a new keyboard... Spewed my beer all pover it laughing so hard..

[Lusche]

A short 16mb clip, unedited raw TrackIr footage from the WWI arena: http://www.mediafire.com/?nyz15ominxj
You see me shooting with TIR fully enabled. (Film length  ~2 minutes)

[AWwrgwy]

A short 16mb clip, unedited raw TrackIr footage from the WWI arena: http://www.mediafire.com/?nyz15ominxj
You see me shooting with TIR fully enabled. (Film length  ~2 minutes)

Sweet.

So that's what the gauges are supposed to look like.

Nice shooting.

Re: Aim.  I use the X where the wires cross between the guns to aim.



wrongway

[Wingnutt]

I fly with TrackIr, and I keep it on even when shooting. Instead of disabling it I try to get very close before shooting.

this


I expected to have issues with aiming due to no reflector sight and the inconsistent head position inherent to using TIR,  but hasn't really been a problem... 

[CptTrips]

OK, well I suck at making movies. 

Sorry for the size and quality.  Its my first try. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/OWeCd9XFNYE


Wab

[Shuffler]

WWI very much.... no just like AW.

[hubsonfire]

Hi, I'm shuffler, and I'm going to spam every WW1 thread.

[Boxboy]

I use TrackIR and I find I can fly with the view zoomed in and still keep perspective with it, I like alot with the WWI kites.

[Old Sport]

Actually, with the DRI I remember now I was pretty much just using the "Force".  Maybe it was longer shots I was barrrel siteing.  I dunno.  Its was all such a blur!

Wab

The cross-bracing wires on the DR 1, just in front of the pilot, between the two guns, seem to create a fairly effective sight. 

Best.

[Urchin]

Ah HAH!  I was wondering why the heck I couldn't hit anything!  That'll take some getting used to.

[ImADot]

Here's some combat footage.  Don't laugh at my piloting suckage  .  At the end, it's good to know that the "get a kill no matter what" mentality of the Mains is still alive and well  .  All footage was filmed with Fraps to capture the sights and sounds from the cockpit while using TrackIR.  I use TIR4 hardware with the ProClip and TIR5 software.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUokWwjjz8

[bustr]

The crossed wire over the hood was the gun sight. The bracing wires just happened to cross about where a ring sight would have been mounted unlike the D.VII. I have TrakIR  3 set to DOT Tracking. I never have a problem aiming while looking through WW2 reflector sights or the new WWI fixed ring sights. Wait to shoot inside of 200yds and you can't miss. I'll use full zoom to watch the hit sprites so I can walk them into the cockpit.

It will be nice when everyone realises you cannot fly the WWI birds like WW2 birds and stop pulling back into each other for a collision as an excuse for a reversal. Everyone is trying too hard to make fast moves trying to force overshoots, sissors, rapid wiggles to spoil aim, merge as close as possible and adfinitum. Nothing happens very quickly between 50-100 mph. Players are yanking thier sticks so hard to make turns that they stop their planes in mid air and make them fall out of the sky. I keep watching players try to duck under your guns at the last moment during a crossing merge causing collisions between their upper wing and your landing gear. It would be nice if we fought starting at 5k instead of WWI Air Quake Tourny at 50ft on down into the bushes. None of us are really getting a chance to utilise the real virtical strengths of our WWI rides or really rip the wings off.

Half the time when I see two go vertical on the deck, one of them always tries to pull back and into the other con over the top trying to get a guns sollution. Its that pulling back into the other con that causes a slow motion collison. HiTech really needs to put herds of those cast Iron sheep in the WWI arena to force us to actually fly the planes instead of playing madd weed whackers with them in the bushes.