109F - T&B or B&Z

[Eagler]

My latest favorite 109 .. the F. Do you fly it as a turn & burn.. seems to hold it's own against most... or boom and zoom.. doesn't have the acceleration of the G's.. Your thoughts & suggestions please..

Eagler

[LJKkratz]

the compressability of the 109s makes them tricky in the bnz, but they aren't great turners...

i guess i'm probably just not that good!

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LJK Kratzer
Geschwader Kommodore, LuftJägerKorps

www.luftjagerkorps.com

[flakbait]

Bf-109's really aren't good at either maneuver. Turn 'em hard and the stall horn screams in your ear, dive too fast and the elevators snatch. I use a combo of both personally. Then again, I mostly fly a G6. Anyway... Get an altitude advantage first, or  at least 320mph of speed [IAS not TAS] before engaging anyone. You burn gas like a 1972 Cadillac DeVille, but that's not the point.

On your first attack, try for a shallow dive so you don't gain too much speed. After that either break hard away from the target and dive, or zoom climb. Once you get to this point, out-thinking the other idiot is the best way to beat them. Sometimes I can get 4 or 5 kills just by diving in and pulling a sharp turn. Other times I get nailed before I even think about when to break.




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Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School
"My art is the wings of an aircraft through the skies, my music the deep hum of a prop as it slices the air, my thrill the thunder of guns tearing asunder an enemy plane."
Flakbait
19 September 2000

[Westy]

 I personally enjoy using the 109-F as base defense. It canl handily out turn most aircraft except the Zeke, and Spit V if flown well. But forget about speed to persue (or escape even) unless you have alt and can drop down on a lower bogy.

  -Westy

[eye]

Get above your enemy.

Rope him the 109f is one on the best climbers under 20k.

Spiral climb. In any fight you can,make all moves go up.
Slow the fight dwn.

Dont turn with the niki spit mk vand IV or the zero.

Dont try to out climb the niki or g10 under 10k.
The g10 will beat you at all alts climbing you must out turn them.

Turn in the 150 mph to 200 range. Depending on fuel level.

The 109 must be in proper trim to turn its best. Combat trim is out!

Fly with 100% fuel + dt

You mustbe above and close to a fight before you drop dt.
Too often in a 109 you must leave just as a kill sit opens up for you with a lower fuel load.

Only b and z until 75 % gas is burnt off then your ready to fight.

Learn the hammerhead use it to reverse on spiral climbs.
Once mastered you get beautful kills off of ropes.

Try to fight near a green base this helps the fuel sit in the 109.
It also can help to make up for the lack of speed the fritz has.
You can use the ack to clear you.
Shoot 250 and under.The closer the more sure the kill.


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[gatt]

The 109F is a wonderful machine for E-fighting, Hit & Climb techniques that is.
Stay high, shallow dive, hit hard and then climb again wepping to altitude. Dont follow your prey for more than 45-90deg turns ... well, do it only against B&Zers and only if theres no one around.

Use her good turning ability to escape late war monsters and E-fight better turners like Zeke, NIKI and Spitfires.

When I was in WB I really loved the Franz  , she was my favourite mount.

[Nath-BDP]

You'll stop flying once everything starts running from you.

[funked]

Depends on the opponent.  Bf 109F-4 and Bf 109G-2 will out turn a lot of the heavy late-war birds.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 10-04-2000).]

[Hristo]

109 is not pure attack plane like 190 is.

The best way to utilize 109 is to make opponent think he can get you. You can use his aggression against him then.

Not to mention this is very dangerous tactic. Many times you will have to surrender your advantage just to be able to land hits. And then it gets nasty.

After moths in 109 you will be able to value 190 qulaities much much more.

As for 109F-4, it is like any 109. E fight and E fight only. Annoy them by constantly being above them. Annoy CreaFmo by lag pursuits.

[Wingnut_0]

The F is my absolute favorite ride in AH.  Though my K/D isn't good in it...I should have a very high kill rate..BUT...my pitiful BB's I shoot can't take anything down quickly and I often force quick snap shots during my up and down routine.

The only true disadvantage I feel the F has is acceleration. Which two familes of Amish in a buggy with 1 horse could accelerate faster.....

Otherwise..it's a fabulous ride.  Speed ain't everything.  

Wingnut
GeschwaderKommadore
P.T.R. "Black 13"

[gatt]

 

You'll stop flying once everything starts running from you.

This is not F-4's fault. Bring a serious and historically accurate plane set and you'll see what she can do. Actually, we live in a "what if" arena.