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Offline Greziz

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I would love to see a rotating war.
« on: March 17, 2010, 06:03:14 PM »
Now I know what your thinking. What would this rotating war be? Well very simple it would be an arena that would cycle through ew, mw, and lw over a weeks time and the winner of the war could be determined by the statistics of each side at the end or something or could have normal win conditions. I feel this arena could get people to possibly fall in love with some ew and mw planes a bit but then again maybe nobody cares to fly them and that is why the mid war and early war never have more than 15 people in them -.- This is just a thought I would like to see tried out.

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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 06:36:24 PM »
You're incorrect about the midwar population, it usually is between 25-40 (more on TT) most during US prime time.

As for a RPS system, basically it amounts to forcing people to fly planes they don't wish to fly.  What will then happen is players will not play until their plane of choice becomes available.  Forcing a player to fly anything other than what they want to is a bad thing and will result in lower population and in some cases, players quitting the game.

This topic has been brought up many times in the past, just do a search of the forums and you'll see the myriad of threads on this.  Even HiTech has chimed in against the RPS and why it won't be added to AH.  You would think that if an RPS system was so successful, HiTech would have carried over the feature from WB when he created AH.

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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 07:14:04 PM »
whats up with the thriple post?
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 07:16:05 PM »
I say we get new maps like SEA maps and what ever side wins gets 30,50 perks that should get people in there.
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 07:45:05 PM »
whats up with the thriple post?

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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 08:55:30 PM »
Patience Greziz...some ideas are being worked out that may fit your wish to some degree.
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 10:22:37 PM »
Yeah sorry about the tripple post I had some weird laggy stuff I told it to post and it never loaded through. So I refreshed tried again same thing so I came back like 20 mins later and tried again same thing I gave up just checked back now and it seems atleast one got through. Anywho I think if you gave the idea of searching through forums of ancient history on a board is madness. I dont want to spend all day to see if some one had the same idea as me. yes I could search key words like rotating and arena but guess what then I have to search through the hundreds upon hundreds of posts that have ever had atleast 1 of those keywords used in them. excuse me if I feel to lazy to do that I have more interesting things to attend to like making toast. I assume your right though I would love to see some people outside of their super rides into some older planes without being at a super disadvantage as every one else would be in older planes too. and I don't believe I am wrong on midwar I was on all day today it never once in my hourly intervals peaked above 14 =/ if the arena could muster 50 people regularly that were doing something other than being afk or farming bomber perks or gv perks I would be in the ew and mid war more often than late.

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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 12:57:09 PM »
I assume your right though I would love to see some people outside of their super rides into some older planes without being at a super disadvantage as every one else would be in older planes too.

The only thing that will happen if you force someone to fly a plane they don't want to is going to be that player does one of two things.  1) Not play until his plane of choice becomes available or 2) cancel their subscription.

All you are trying to do with this request is to force players to fly planes they don't have any interest or desire to fly.  It's not going to promote any good fights, it's not going to change the dynamics of the arenas, it's not going to make someone that was less willing to fight in a late war plane suddenly become willing to fight in a early or mid war plane.  You're going to see the same type of behavior as we do currently.  The only thing that will change is the arena will be less populated until the tail end when all planes are available.

Ask yourself this, if an RPS system is such a good idea why didn't HiTech make it a part of the game?  I mean, if it was successful and popular with the players, you would think that he would have brought over the RPS system he put in WB to AH but he didn't. 

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and I don't believe I am wrong on midwar I was on all day today it never once in my hourly intervals peaked above 14 =/ if the arena could muster 50 people regularly that were doing something other than being afk or farming bomber perks or gv perks I would be in the ew and mid war more often than late.

You are mistaken about the MW arena, though with the recent introduction of the WW1 arenas, the population has been on the low side this past week and a half. 


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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 01:07:06 PM »
Used to fly that in WB long ago and grew to HATE it!  :furious

Why?  :O

The imbalance issue was constant.  :mad:

At the start the axis has better rides then it's the allies and that goes back and forth for a little BUT so do the players.  :old:

So you are constantly dealing with a numbers imbalance problem until it's pretty much allied rides everywhere.  :old:

Rolling plane set ..... NO THANKS!  :furious

Besides I why does EVERYONE have to do it the way YOU want?   :huh

Leave it alone PLEASE!   :neener: :neener: :neener:  :bolt:
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2010, 02:07:19 PM »
Ask yourself this, if an RPS system is such a good idea why didn't HiTech make it a part of the game?  I mean, if it was successful and popular with the players, you would think that he would have brought over the RPS system he put in WB to AH but he didn't.
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For every 1 person who wants a more "immersive" flight sim there are a hundred who want a more "arcade" version...that's just the way it is...few people could handle the challenges of limited plane sets and icon settings not found in the MA's on a daily basis...it's not about "balance" or "finding a fight" or anything else except arcade mode is more popular.

Greziz, until someone comes up with a way to script out an actual rolling war/campaign system that works...you might want to give the AvA a try...hopefully people are on when you are able to get on...check in around 8 p.m. EST.
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 04:34:35 PM »
I am just surprised the ava doesnt have like a hundred people in it 24/7  several squads all with one mind set crush the enemy in the land sea and sky. several hardcore groups just commanding groups like a constant fso would sound pretty awesome and I would so be a part of that so much but once again the arena's are just a ghost town even if I sit in there it is almost nothing more than maybe a duel here and there no good action that comes with a larger number of people.
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2010, 11:43:39 AM »
I am just surprised the ava doesnt have like a hundred people in it 24/7  several squads all with one mind set crush the enemy in the land sea and sky. several hardcore groups just commanding groups like a constant fso would sound pretty awesome and I would so be a part of that so much but once again the arena's are just a ghost town even if I sit in there it is almost nothing more than maybe a duel here and there no good action that comes with a larger number of people.
[I am also really surprised this game doesn't have more ads on the internet or tv. It is a topnotch game and the production value outstrips many of todays games with ease. the only thing I can see that turns off the gamers is the steep learning curve. I just feel like the game isn't known by many people who would no doubt love it.]

I do not know this for a fact as I haven't been in the AvA for a very long time.   :O

Didn't care for the setup at the time I was in there sooooooo.   :uhoh

BUT.....

I have read and heard several complaints about the squads in, and some of those in control of, the AvA that SEEM to drive any would be participants away from said arena.  :uhoh  :old:
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2010, 05:26:44 PM »
Most people really do not want a rolling plane set.

I flew them back in Warbirds and thankfully will never have to go back to them.

They were incredible whine generators. Causing endless amounts of bickering about which dates to use, who's sources, etc.

And at the end of the day all they really accomplished was to force people to fly something they really didn't want to fly.

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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2010, 09:41:15 PM »
And at the end of the day all they really accomplished was to force people to fly something they really didn't want to fly.

All they really accomplished was increasing the negative differential pressure gradient until it reached levels suitable for starting thousands of jets all at once on a Sunday.

Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Re: I would love to see a rotating war.
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2010, 10:14:04 PM »
All they really accomplished was increasing the negative differential pressure gradient until it reached levels suitable for starting thousands of jets all at once on a Sunday.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

I hated the last Sunday of every campaign the last couple of years of AW3 when they enabled the Me 262 in the arenas.  Those Sundays were a perfect example of why planes are perked in AH.


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