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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2001, 10:07:00 AM »
If I would have to rack up alot kills in little time and survive, I would pick spitfrie.
with some 30mm 109 it takes too long..  besides I prefer more accurate 20mm anyway (13 shots = kill)

G10 is probably most capable surviver out of 109's.
Though, it can't do maneuvers like spit or n1k2 even closely..  so, once in trouble and you can't accerlate away, its time for goodbye.
Yak does almost same as G10, and far more better.. (its controls feels alot lighter)
though, I still will hit alot better with 109.

109F4 is good, but too slow..
but its good against people who thinks it as G10 and goes for turn fight just to realise that it was F4 after they've been shot down. (if they ever realise it.. hehe  ive had people asking me how did I get the 109 turn so good)

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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »
I personally like that G2, its a nifty little machine, very good turner/climber but like all 109's sucks in a dive.  That's where the 109 falls short of being one of the best compared to the top 5 a/c...the others can dive out of danger, the 109 can only climb out of danger.

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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2001, 11:13:00 AM »
My main problem with all 109's is the lack of rudder authority or general controls in a dive. Can't do anything with it if the enemy just turns a little when you set up that perfect dive.

The A8, however, responds even at close to 600mph  . As does the A5, which I fly now.

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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2001, 01:14:00 PM »
Any post that LW planes aren't hobbled bi-planes with shotguns for weapons is a troll? At least to the luftwhiners. That's a fact.
 Just look at the leather clad lw's pouring in in the G6's defense here in such a short time.

The facts are that it's not that say a late war George shouldn't be better than the G6. It certainly is. But to a degree that you guys spend a presidential campaign sized  effort to say that the chog and nik are ruining the game? That you must be some expert to fly LW planes? There is that big of diffrence in plane ability? How about this one, "I have to use Combat Trim at low level in the G10."  BS.

I started flying the G6 one night, and got like even a kill to death ratio. It's hard to get a plane you've never flown before and do well, but I was very suprised at the G6. I fly til Im dead, and usually have a 50/50 kill death over a tour, mostly in nik, so that was surprising.

Boys, the LW planes just aint that bad. Here's some weaknesses for the G6 I found in only about a hour in it.-

Dismal long range gunnery. Its a in tight wapon thats for sure. I did try to run from a nik, and was hosed at 500 by a huge long burst. I shoulda jinked more, but I know that long gunnery just chaps yer asses. The other planes can waste you from far out, agreed.

Still, a G6 at 200 yrs absolutley decimates aircraft with the .30mm. 2 shells? I dont know, but I was completely amazed a short burst cut it in half. Felt like a Osti to me. I will be going into the TA to test that very soon indeed. Ill get Animal as a drone and the facts will be posted.

It compresses badly, but I found the climb rate more that makes up for it. And it turns great. HAd really good Niki battles in it. Seemed even as I was brand new to it.

Bottom line is the late war planes are better, but not by the huge amount you guys cry about.

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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2001, 01:56:00 PM »
Funny, I haven't seen LW whine about Chog or Niki in a long bellybutton time, maybe save for RAM, but he's not LW anymore.

 
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How about this one, "I have to use Combat Trim at low level in the G10." BS.

Thats right, if CT is in the game I will use it to its fullest--especially against a high N1K2 that can't even beat me with 5k alt, really pathetic some of those niki dweebs I tell ya.

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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2001, 02:00:00 PM »
Oh and btw, we never said our current planeset is 'bad' per se, it's just that we want a better plane thats suitable for the arena, such as the D9--the Allies have the P51 and LW have nothing that can match P51 as an arena plane. What I mean by that is high speed control, good dive, and fast. The current 190s shine in the former but lack in the latter.

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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2001, 02:26:00 PM »
While I am all for more planes of any kind, I have to say I do better overall in the German stuff. I have tried to fly the Mustang a lot in the last tour (just to see what the fuss is about), and in a couple hops back in the 109 was able to kill more effectively and survive more. To each his own, I suppose...

I don't, and never did, think that the LW was that poorly represented here.

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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2001, 03:48:00 PM »
Nath we had GLASSES the other day in the arena clogging the buffer about how the chog was cheating and how he was going to quit.

He then followed a B-17 from a 6'o clock position, SLOW, and OBVIOUSLY the B-17 chewed him up, he started whinning about the 109 being porked, he left the arena whinning about how hes going to quit.

I'm used to arguing with him since high school so I said "alright, I'll just try the 109 out and see how porked it is"

I was expecting a plane that would be a pig at everything, but I found out its even more capable at many things than my P-38.

All this blahblah about how it rolls slow, etc, well thats a moot point because YOU ARE SUPOSED TO BE OUTSTANDING PILOTS and slow roll rate and diving should be just nuisances and not prevent you from killing nikis and (*snicker*) THE CHOG.

When I was a new P-38 pilot I used to whine a lot about many things, because I was doing bad in it. Now that I know my plane and what its capable of, I think its the best in the arena. Sometimes I fly the niki and I dont even get as many kills as in my P-38.