50 cal vs. Wirbelwind Damage Model

[waystin2]

Please check into the damage model on the Wirbelwind.  I have twice been killed by planes that are only equipped with .50 cals in strafing runs.  This should not be possible.  Thank you in advance HTC.

[TOMCAT21]

Way, were you damaged prior to the 50's hitting you ? pretty thin, I know

[Saxman]

Weren't there tests done that showed the Browning M2 COULD actually penetrate steel plate armor?

However I've NEVER seen .50cal kill a Wirble or Ostwind. They can certainly knock out the turret (open top + several hundred flying bits of metal = hamburger) and I've occasionally seen hits to the right area kill an M8, but never anything more heavily armored than that.

[TOMCAT21]

Sax, I've seen  50cal take the turret out but flat killing it..not sure on that....SNAILMAN, where are you  ?

[waystin2]

Way, were you damaged prior to the 50's hitting you ? pretty thin, I know

Negative.  I have driven the WW enough since it's inception to know something has changed.  In fact, both kills were from P40E's no bombs.

[Ruler2]

Please check into the damage model on the Wirbelwind.  I have twice been killed by planes that are only equipped with .50 cals in strafing runs.  This should not be possible.  Thank you in advance HTC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uytYDVfnyGc   Maybe he got a good rear burst on you.

[Lusche]

SNAILMAN, where are you  ?

I'm here, but I don't know what I am required for in this thread

But I have a suggestion: We (and probably HTC too) need .ahf films showing this.

So my advice would be: Take a friend, go to MW and try to recreate this incident. Select a remote location, spawn a wirble to enemy base where the friend is waiting in a P-40 or similar plane. Then test a few times it with recorder running.

When there still was a LAN option, I used to do such tests by myself, but that ain't possible anymore

[TonyJoey]

Blew up a flak today with a few passes in a Hellcat. I like being able to kill them with .50's

[oakranger]

I must have +50 kills on WW just by taking out their turret with my .50 cal p-47.

[waystin2]

I am not talking about bailing from it when I have lost my turret.  I will take Lusches advice and try to recreate & film.

[Bronk]

Seeing that its an OPEN turret. Don't you think .50 coming in at a steep angle would get inside the hull and puree the occupants?

[Lusche]

Seeing that its an OPEN turret. Don't you think .50 coming in at a steep angle would get inside the hull and puree the occupants?

I do. But then, it never worked that way in AH, and I don't remember any mentioning of changes in the GV damage model in the release notes.
So so there are some questions open on that matter.

First step: Find out if something is really different.
Second step, if yes, find out why

[Bronk]

I do. But then, it never worked that way in AH, and I don't remember any mentioning of changes in the GV damage model in the release notes.
So so there are some questions open on that matter.

First step: Find out if something is really different.
Second step, if yes, find out why

Well if it's now the case... then it has been fixed IMO.

[Saxman]

Well if it's now the case... then it has been fixed IMO.

Now if only they'd do something about the lack of recoil and unrealistic volume or rate of fire....

[Bronk]

Now if only they'd do something about the lack of recoil and unrealistic volume or rate of fire....

Remember when recoil was 1st added? The whine was incredible.