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Offline 2Slow

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Bombardier issue
« on: April 06, 2010, 10:55:22 AM »
When one pickles a bomb load, salvo all with a delay, and then jumps to a gunner position the bombs stop dropping.  Why?  Since my virtual pilot is still flying, with the settings I left him with, why can't the bomdardier continue to drop bombs?
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Offline Dr_Death8

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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010, 11:16:49 AM »
Same thing happens when you have troops in an M3.  If you go from drivers seat with a salvo of 10 and move to the gunner seat, the troops will not exit until you are back in the drivers seat.

Couple months ago was taking a base with squaddies and hit the release button and seen the troops exiting.  Jump to gunner position and took a few minutes to figure out why we didn't get the base. Mved back into driver seat and last 4 troops exited the vehicle.

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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 12:05:34 PM »
well i dont think that has ever hapend to me but i do think the issue needs to be fixed. PS can u tell me how to start a post or subject plz and thank u :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane:
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 01:36:38 PM »
well i dont think that has ever hapend to me but i do think the issue needs to be fixed. PS can u tell me how to start a post or subject plz and thank u


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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 03:04:36 PM »
Choose "New Topic" from upper right corner....  :bolt:

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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 10:39:23 AM »
well sry jayhawk and thanks dr death8 well lets get on the Bombardier issue than ok
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 05:38:41 PM »
When one pickles a bomb load, salvo all with a delay, and then jumps to a gunner position the bombs stop dropping.  Why?  Since my virtual pilot is still flying, with the settings I left him with, why can't the bomdardier continue to drop bombs?

And, on another note, how about delays greater than 0.99?  The industrial center is a target that needs a longer delay.
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 04:51:17 PM »
The bomb drop stop totaly trashed my mission over an industrial center.

I release the salvo, bombs are dropping.  I get shot down and transfer to buff #2.  I am in the cockpit.  Guess what happened to the bomb drop?  It stopped until and moved to the bombardier position.

I know it has been commented that this is a "bug."  My question, when will it be fixed?  :mad:
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 06:06:35 PM »
It does rather make attacking the lead bomber a priority right at the drop point.  :devil
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 08:10:38 PM »
It does rather make attacking the lead bomber a priority right at the drop point.  :devil

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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 09:59:45 AM »
It does rather make attacking the lead bomber a priority right at the drop point.  :devil

How true, unfortunately.  IMHO it should not be so.  Talk about gaming the game.
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2010, 08:23:17 AM »
I wonder if adding a bombardier position that could be killed would effect this?
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 11:56:28 AM »
I wonder if adding a bombardier position that could be killed would effect this?

Seems to me that it is already in effect. 

In reality, the Norden Bomb sight was calibrated/set by the bombardier to a release point.  It would then release automatically when that point was reached.  The bombardier would also hit the bomb release switch as a backup in the event the auto drop failed.  Several different bomb release switches were used over the course of the war.  Initially the manual release was a lever.  Push or toggle it into the down position and bombs would drop.  It also had a toggle switch version.  Toggle the switch and bombs released.  The classic version (as shown in most war movies) was a button release.  All of these were of toggle effect.  Swing, flip, or press and an electrical signal was sent to the release mechanism and bombs dropped.  One did not have to hold the toggle in the "drop" position.  One flick, and they all dropped per salvo settings.

So my point is, once I toggle the bomb release bombs should continue to drop.
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Re: Bombardier issue
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 09:40:07 AM »
See:
http://www.303rdbg.com/b17-controls.pdf

It might be slow to load.  It's a 16mb PDF file.

From what I read in this it is my understanding that once the drop is initiated it continues even if the bombardier leaves his position to go to the crapper.  Our "salvo with delay" is the documents "selective."

Trivia note:  In most films and stories the Bombardier announces "bombs away" when he releases the bombs.  In reality, he announced "bombs away" with the last bomb dropped.  This gave a notice to the pilot that the plane was now his to fly. 
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