TITANIC TUESDAY 81st KrEwSaDeRz Epic Mission approx 2000C TimE!

[uptown]

Naturally you won't announce if you're attacking Bish or Nits. I suspect you'll go the route with the least resistance as usual. Which means you'll be attacking the Knights.

[1Boner]

Naturally you won't announce if you're attacking Bish or Nits. I suspect you'll go the route with the least resistance as usual. Which means you'll be attacking the Knights.

I think you'll be able to tell where they're headed with plenty of time to spare.

They've announced about every thing you should need to know to mount a defense.

What more could you possibly want??

An NOE??

[uptown]

A joystick 

[thorsim]

What more could you possibly want??

my effin a8 RATOs ...

those idiots over at supply ...

!!!

+S+ big bomber group dudes we will be looking for ya ...

[ap1102]

OMG I missed last nights mission. My fricking week is shot now. Already having AH2 withdrawls from my scehedule being so f'ed up this week. Swoops any chance we can have a Wedns night mission tonight to hold me over til next week.? I'll have an hard time functioning this week if you dont.........

El Rhino

[groundfeeder]

Naturally you won't announce if you're attacking Bish or Nits. I suspect you'll go the route with the least resistance as usual. Which means you'll be attacking the Knights.

Yeah! what are u be thinkin.....we rooks ain't stoopid!

[uptown]

Yeah! what are u be thinkin.....we rooks ain't stoopid!

did they attack the knights last night?

[Swoops]

Well for everyone who joined up or attacked I look forward to running these missions every week on tuesday night at around 7:00 or 8:00 p.m. Central Daylight time.  As to some of the concerns about who we run the mission against, there are a lot of factors that end up in the decision making process.  The primary factor usually has to do with the attention span of the players that are willing to join up with this type of mission.  A lot of people get on and are looking for that "instant gratification," of getting into the action quick.  Setting up a mission like this takes so much planning and coordination with my squad and the other squads that are available for the evening that usually we are dealing with some sort of time constraint.  I usually get on early in the day and do the time calculations depending on when Skuzzy sets up the arena.  The arena sunsets at 18:14 arena time everyday in the arena and so I have to calculate and calibrate that time for my mission launch time of around 7 or 8 p.m.  So I post the mission about 8 - 10 hours ahead of time so that everyone has a chance to see when its gonna launch game time.  I always use a bogus airfield and get the mission ready to roll so that at the last minute I can update the launch field so as to minimize the amount of time available for spies to scramble an intercept before we get up to altitude.  This week we happened to run against the knights and unfortunately even by only changing the launch field 5 min prior to launch we were walloped by many fw-190's from the I/JG11 at around 15k well before we had a chance to rendezvous with our primary escort mission and ultimately the remaining group was shredded by 163's over the target.  The choice of bomber was less than optimal also seeing as we changed up the formula to use the Lancaster III as opposed to our normal b-17g hoping to maximize the damage because the bomber turnout was much lower than the preceding week.  I believe we only had 11 buff pilots turn out as opposed to the 40 that started with us the week before.  So the change this week will be that we will be at our target altitude well before enemy airspace penetration and hopefully we will have enough adequate fighter escorts to help aid us successful target prosecution.

[Masherbrum]

Well for everyone who joined up or attacked I look forward to running these missions every week on tuesday night at around 7:00 or 8:00 p.m. Central Daylight time.  As to some of the concerns about who we run the mission against, there are a lot of factors that end up in the decision making process.  The primary factor usually has to do with the attention span of the players that are willing to join up with this type of mission.  A lot of people get on and are looking for that "instant gratification," of getting into the action quick.  Setting up a mission like this takes so much planning and coordination with my squad and the other squads that are available for the evening that usually we are dealing with some sort of time constraint.  I usually get on early in the day and do the time calculations depending on when Skuzzy sets up the arena.  The arena sunsets at 18:14 arena time everyday in the arena and so I have to calculate and calibrate that time for my mission launch time of around 7 or 8 p.m.  So I post the mission about 8 - 10 hours ahead of time so that everyone has a chance to see when its gonna launch game time.  I always use a bogus airfield and get the mission ready to roll so that at the last minute I can update the launch field so as to minimize the amount of time available for spies to scramble an intercept before we get up to altitude.  This week we happened to run against the knights and unfortunately even by only changing the launch field 5 min prior to launch we were walloped by many fw-190's from the I/JG11 at around 15k well before we had a chance to rendezvous with our primary escort mission and ultimately the remaining group was shredded by 163's over the target.  The choice of bomber was less than optimal also seeing as we changed up the formula to use the Lancaster III as opposed to our normal b-17g hoping to maximize the damage because the bomber turnout was much lower than the preceding week.  I believe we only had 11 buff pilots turn out as opposed to the 40 that started with us the week before.  So the change this week will be that we will be at our target altitude well before enemy airspace penetration and hopefully we will have enough adequate fighter escorts to help aid us successful target prosecution.

You attack Knights for the very reason Uptown mentioned.   You could have just admitted it with silence, rather with a paragraph trying to cover up that fact.   

[ap1102]

HUH? Least resistance? What does that imply? Knights wont up to defend strats and bish will? We have flown against both sides and resistance has been great at times and mimimal at times. I dont think Swoops is obligated to inform the whole arena what side we attack and since its his mission its his choice based on best available info at the time.
 Not to mention the fact that bombing the strat is only one part of the objective. The other part is to land damage and kills. This takes a lot of group interaction to fly in formation to protect each other and coordinate little friends to protect bombers. This type of teamwork was what made us switch sides to Rooks from Knights in January. Nothing against Knights as a whole. Theres a lot of good guys there that we miss. But there are also a lots of folks only interested in the furball aspect of the game. I cant speak for Bish side not having flown there.
If opposing sides worked together as large squad instead of as individuals it would be very difficult to accomplish what we have in previous missions. I think everyone on Rook side flying Swoops missions agree these missions are not only fun but a great training tool as well for attackers and defenders. But it goes withour saying its your money spend it as you wish. As for me "Swoops for President".


EZRhino

[uptown]

 ......Not to mention the fact that bombing the strat is only one part of the objective. The other part is to land damage and kills. This takes a lot of group interaction to fly in formation to protect each other and coordinate little friends to protect bombers. This type of teamwork was what made us switch sides to Rooks from Knights in January. Nothing against Knights as a whole. Theres a lot of good guys there that we miss. But there are also a lots of folks only interested in the furball aspect of the game. I cant speak for Bish side not having flown there.
If opposing sides worked together as large squad instead of as individuals it would be very difficult to accomplish what we have in previous missions.


EZRhino

You just proved my point. You hopped sides for numbers and knowing that the Knights won't put a mass effort to stop it. That in itself is the definition of path to least resistance.
I called it. I was right, and next week or month will be the same thing.If ya can't beat em'..join em'.

[Masherbrum]

HUH? Least resistance? What does that imply? Knights wont up to defend strats and bish will? We have flown against both sides and resistance has been great at times and mimimal at times. I dont think Swoops is obligated to inform the whole arena what side we attack and since its his mission its his choice based on best available info at the time.
 Not to mention the fact that bombing the strat is only one part of the objective. The other part is to land damage and kills. This takes a lot of group interaction to fly in formation to protect each other and coordinate little friends to protect bombers. This type of teamwork was what made us switch sides to Rooks from Knights in January. Nothing against Knights as a whole. Theres a lot of good guys there that we miss. But there are also a lots of folks only interested in the furball aspect of the game. I cant speak for Bish side not having flown there.
If opposing sides worked together as large squad instead of as individuals it would be very difficult to accomplish what we have in previous missions. I think everyone on Rook side flying Swoops missions agree these missions are not only fun but a great training tool as well for attackers and defenders. But it goes withour saying its your money spend it as you wish. As for me "Swoops for President".

EZRhino

Yes, that is exactly what the "least resistance" is.  Also, dropping Radar does absolutely nothing.   Most players KNOW where the fights are prior to it being dropped.   But while 50 rooks are cruising at 30k+, I'd rather attack a base.  Most Knights I would also say, feel this way.   

Remember that without furballers, base takers wouldn't get their precious bases.  

[thorsim]

hey i like those attacks, maybe it could be a "tag your it" kind of thing or rotate weekly to the side you bombed the last time, yes it would be more predictable as to who you attack, however it would spread the burden a bit and imo there is a benefit to predictability i.e. a bigger party on both sides ...

[ap1102]

Uptown one thing you proved was that you cant interpret what is written. Another is you have failed your Vulcan mind probe class. To be very clear  My squad did not switch side for numbers sake.  We switched sides due to individualistic furball issues with a large percentage of the Knight players which we tried to change. It was quickly obvious that was not going to happen.  What you also fail to realize that even though it appears that Rooks have an advantage in numbers is negated by ENY. Swoops this my final post on this thread concerning this aspect. Sorry it was not my intent to hijack it.

Rhino

[Masherbrum]

hey i like those attacks, maybe it could be a "tag your it" kind of thing or rotate weekly to the side you bombed the last time, yes it would be more predictable as to who you attack, however it would spread the burden a bit and imo there is a benefit to predictability i.e. a bigger party on both sides ...

at 30k+?    Hardly.