Author Topic: HTC: Petition for 190F8! (Read 814 times)

StSanta · « **on:** October 17, 2000, 06:34:00 AM »

Well, there are lots of reasons to create a 190F8. I'll line up my reasoning here.

1) Scenarios. In the upcoming Afrika scenario, 190A8's will have to "simulate" 190F8's. Flight model wise, they'll do a remarkable job, but ordnance wise, they come up lacking quite much. One egg vs the loadout of the F8 is a big difference. Also, low altitude speed is greater on the A8, enabling better rrrruns.

2) Modelling. It's basically an A8. Much of the 3d art can be reused, and the FM just needs to be tweaked and loadout options added.

3) Equalizing LW/Allieds capabilities. The allieds have several aircraft that either carry two bombs and a load of rockets, or three bombs and a load of rockets. Would be nice if the LW had similar capabilities.

4) LW panzer plonking. As it is now, I take my 190A8, drop one egg, rtb for rearm. All while an F4U makes two passes with bombs, a couple of passes with rockets, and then some (if the pilot has the courage) a few passes with cannons. Not asking for supercannons; a few more eggs would be nice though.

5) Not unbalancing.

There are variants of arguments based on these, but that's what it boils down to.

So PLEASE, model it

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

RAM · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2000, 06:37:00 AM »

NO WAY, THE FW190F8 has NO place in the current planeset.

StSanta, RETIRE IMMEDIATLY THAT PETITION, IT IS UNNEEDED!...

now...if you tell me about a Fw190G8...

That would be slightly different

BRING THE FW190G8 TO ACES HIGH!!!!!!

(with Mw50, please, and Panzerblitz rockets)

Now seriously, G series of Fw190 will be much better ground pounder than F versions. To start, because they had wing strong points and F versions hadn't.

And secondly because they were fast low level latewar jabos, faster than F8.

Most of them were fitted with MW50 booster. It would be the equal of the CHog,as ground pounder, in all but guns.

This was a plane widely used in the eastern front, it carried the Panzerblitz and R4M antitank rockets...wonderful antitank weapons (someone said "wonderful Ostie Killers"?

So, forget about F8, and, please please, bring a G8.

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Hristo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2000, 06:45:00 AM »

Any 190 is a welcome addition to the planeset.

My personal vote would go to the one faster on the deck

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Stoickov
9./JG54 "Grünherz"

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funked · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2000, 06:46:00 AM »

RAM shhhhhhhhhhhh!

Where have you been?

Fw 190F-8/U1 gives F-8 all of the G-8 stores racks!

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000596.html

Here's a thread I started on F-8 with good info: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000725.html

The current Fw 190A-8 with boost override has as much power on the deck as F or G with supplemental petrol injection. Just make sure that same engine is used in the F-8.

Fw 190F-8 with boost override and option for U1 wing bomb racks. That's the ticket!

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RAM · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2000, 06:50:00 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by funked:

Fw 190F-8/U1 gives F-8 all of the G-8 stores racks.

Did F8/U1 had MW50?

G8 had it

funked · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2000, 07:12:00 AM »

RAM I am not sure that MW 50 was used on any Fw 190A/F/G.

In any case the boost override system gives equivalent performance.

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Fishu · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2000, 08:18:00 AM »

Bring on Ju-87G, I'd be happy with it..
maybe an easy pray, but those 37mm cannons would be sporting against tanks.

juzz · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2000, 08:27:00 AM »

Mmmm, Fw 190F-8...

Centreline: 500kg, 250kg, 4x50kg/70kg, 300l DT
Wings: 2x250kg, 2x50kg/70kg, 2x300l DT
OR
Rockets: 12xPanzerschreck, 8xPanzerblitz 1, 12xPanzerblitz 2

Bubble hood and 2x13mm, 2x20mm.

Sweeet! More options than you can poke a stick at!

funked · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:07:00 AM »

Juzz, 4 x 50kg/70kg on wings

I bet a shower of those would make mincemeat out of M16/Ostwind.

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RAM · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:09:00 AM »

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Ripsnort · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:39:00 AM »

yes, bring it so us Allied plane set folks can whine about getting rid of it and saying "its porked" ...LOL!

RAM · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »

If a AH's modelled 190F8 turns and holds E twice as well as a 190A8, while at the same time has the most powerful set of guns in AH, and it is suspected that it has a completely unrealistic set of loadouts, I will give you the reason.

But that won't happen.

And you know why do I say this, and wich plane am I referring to.

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funked · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:52:00 AM »

This is an Fw 190F-8 thread, NOT a plane whining thread. Go away.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2000, 11:02:00 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by RAM:
If a AH's modelled 190F8 turns and holds E twice as well as a 190A8, while at the same time has the most powerful set of guns in AH, and it is suspected that it has a completely unrealistic set of loadouts, I will give you the reason.

But that won't happen.

And you know why do I say this, and wich plane am I referring to.

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Facts and data ,son, show me hard facts and data, and film helps too

As you know, F4UDOA and Wells produced enough data to fix it, so prove otherwise.

I'm going away funked!

funked · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2000, 11:04:00 AM »

GO AWAY!!!

DELETE YOUR POSTS!!!