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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 06:51:28 AM »
I had a pentium 4 2.8 3 gigs of ram, 35 processes and played the game fine with fps at around 40.  its not how many processed you have, its how many "big" processed u run.  I also had mccaffey, dumped it for esset and fps really didnt change.

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"processes" are "processes", no matter how large or small.  They are still CPU cycle stealers.    The bottom line (Kermit's troll aside) is that the OP has something going on with his PC and ESET is NOT the culprit.  
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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 08:45:09 AM »
Or, everyone is assuming he wants to unload it because it's causing a problem...seeing as he hasn't mentioned a problem yet.

Obsessive Compulsive people really do exist, ya know.
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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »
Or, everyone is assuming he wants to unload it because it's causing a problem...seeing as he hasn't mentioned a problem yet.

Obsessive Compulsive people really do exist, ya know.

I agree, but ditching quite possibly the best AV is asinine.   

The latest issue of MaximumPC has ESET winning again vs. Panda, Norton, Microsoft, Avast, Avira, McAfee, Trend Micro, BitDefender and Komodo.   
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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 05:41:17 PM »
I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D
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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 05:48:47 PM »
I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2010, 03:21:05 PM »
When I had my Pentium 3, I had XP SP1 (SP2 added 6 processes alone) and played AH with 13 Processes total.   Most make the mistake and put SP3 on an inadequate PC and blame the software/OS.

I play right now with 14 process's including AH on SP3  . I can drop one other if i disable dns client but i leave that running . Did you all know that with saitek's programing software ..... that after you load your AH profile .... you can kill the profile service and program service and still have your stick perform as normal heh.   

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2010, 07:11:15 PM »
I game with ESET SS4 running and have NEVER had a problem.   Your PC is the problem, not the A/V program.   Buy more RAM, better CPU or both.

i7 2.8 x64 6GB Ram...ram is not the issue...I just want the power to terminate the AV process/thread...I am a control freak...
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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2010, 07:12:47 PM »
I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D

You and Mash have it right....no problems at all running the ESET AV...I just like the POWER of killing it when I want to...

ESET is a fine AV platform...except its insidious domination and control of its own process...you can not kill ESET in the task manager by attempting to end its process...I do not appreciate that sort of control granted to an elective application...father does not always know best....

The OP question was: What decent AV software is available that lets you kill it during a session?

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2010, 07:35:12 PM »
Incidentally I have gone back to Kaspersky...

The only software I have found so far that will unload all of its running process by simply clicking on the tray icon and choosing exit...

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2010, 06:09:08 PM »
You and Mash have it right....no problems at all running the ESET AV...I just like the POWER of killing it when I want to...

ESET is a fine AV platform...except its insidious domination and control of its own process...you can not kill ESET in the task manager by attempting to end its process...I do not appreciate that sort of control granted to an elective application...father does not always know best....

The OP question was: What decent AV software is available that lets you kill it during a session?

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Wull, gee!  If you could kill it programmatically, then it would be a lot like all the cruddy pretend AV programs that all the malware kills off first thing when they get a toe-hold - or like 2 or 3 year old AV that doesn't protect much from much.

In short, no decent modern AV is going to allow another process to terminate it.

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2010, 10:01:09 PM »
Wull, gee!  If you could kill it programmatically, then it would be a lot like all the cruddy pretend AV programs that all the malware kills off first thing when they get a toe-hold - or like 2 or 3 year old AV that doesn't protect much from much.

In short, no decent modern AV is going to allow another process to terminate it.

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I have a bit of programming experience...in regards to thread allocation and control...though I must confess I am an amateur...however any process that kills another process can be inspected by the victim process...all programs have the ability to query interlopers...any AV program worth its salt can ascertain the the source of the calling assassin. Its a simple matter of identifying the calling process.

Most AV proc's take the easy out...and just deny all interludes...that is the cheap an easy way...

Again...the OP question remains: List all AV app's that allow the end user to terminate them.....

So far Kaspersky is the only AV that I have found that lets you right click kill its process...in totality...

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Re: Anti Virus Software Than Can Be Unloaded at Run Time
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 03:36:21 AM »
Easiest solution probably would be to dualboot and leave AV uninstalled to the partition which you use only for AH / online games. Just make sure you don't browse internet when you're in there. That way you can still even scan the 'game OS' from the other boot side.
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