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Offline Karnak

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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 01:30:29 PM »
You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:

Ki-43-I
  • Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
  • Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
  • Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm

Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
  • Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
  • Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm
That would leave out the most important version of the Ki-43 though.  The Ki-43-II was, far and away, the most important version of the fighter.  It was stronger and faster than the Ki-43-I, but not as fast as the Ki-43-III.  The Ki-43-III only shows up at the very end of the war, so only having the -I and -III leaves the Japanese with, once again, an earlier version than they should have for most scenarios.


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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 04:27:29 PM »
well whose to say we cant have all 3 versions? after all, we have 5 versions of the F4U, 5 of the jug, and 3 of the P38, as well as 7 spits.

we can have the I for flying tigers scenarios, the II for mid-war scenarios, and the III for MA
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 04:30:18 PM »
You could make something like 5 different Ki-43 variants on two models just by using gun package options:

Ki-43-I
  • Ki-43-Ia - 2x7.7mm
  • Ki-43-Ib - 1x7.7mm and 1x12.7mm
  • Ki-43-Ic - 2x12.7mm

Ki-43-III - Uprated engine and drop tank provisions
  • Ki-43-IIIa - 2x12.7mm
  • Ki-43-IIIb - 2x20mm

20mm armed versions were prototypes only, they didn't see combat.
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 05:16:30 PM »
I think this plane would be a good new addition to aceshigh. I like the guns seems by its design structure to be maneuverable and fast.

It wasn't all that maneuvarable, it was a pure local defense interceptor designed to intercept high flying bombers.  As such, priority was for speed, climb performance and armament at the expense of maneuverability.  Because the Jack didn't have a supercharger, performance as it got higher degraded though it was far more successful at intercepting B-29s than the Ki-100 was.


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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2010, 07:22:15 PM »
im gonna throw this in there, the J2M3 (ive been wanting it for a long time now  :pray):


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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 09:24:49 PM »
Since January huh?

no smart arse, ive been playing since last march, but i just now signed up for the forums

besides, you jolly rogers guys sitting on your high hog need some decent competition  :t
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 10:18:02 PM »
I like this plane too, always have...
But Saburo Sakai said, that flying it, was like driving a truck!  Hmmmmm?
I think he would know, don't you?

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Sorta, he also complained about the A6M at first and it's 20mm cannons, favoring the A5M and 7.7mm over them I believe.
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2010, 11:57:00 PM »
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Because the Jack didn't have a supercharger, performance as it got higher degraded
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Really?  I've read the J2M3 had a ceiling of over 38,000 feet.  Pretty hard to get up there without an intake compressor, neh?

EDIT:
This page at the NASM lists the earlier Kasei models 21 and 22 (the J2M3 mounted a model 23a) as both having two-speed "blowers" i.e., superchargers:

http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2010, 01:04:30 AM »
no smart arse, ive been playing since last march, but i just now signed up for the forums

besides, you jolly rogers guys sitting on your high hog need some decent competition  :t

Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2010, 01:16:56 AM »
Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
You must be awesome.
Wait, wait, wait.....Corkyjr is an expert P-38 breaker not an expert P-38 pilot.  Big difference there.   :P
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2010, 06:33:00 AM »
Oh excuse me, you've been waiting a year... You must have given up all hope by now.
You claim to be a P-38 expert in your signature I would expect that would make you decent competetion already.
We got our hands full if we run into P-38 guys like Corkyjr, Ack Ack, and others from SAPP and they don't have P-38 expert in their sigs.
You must be awesome.

what i mean by that is that i know pretty much everything there is to know about the P-38 vs. other aircraft. I am by no means an expert dogfighter  :lol
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2010, 08:06:05 AM »
what i mean by that is that i know pretty much everything there is to know about the P-38 vs. other aircraft. I am by no means an expert dogfighter  :lol

Ah... :aok

All that aside I'd like to see the J2m make it into the game as well. Along with K-43 variants and the Ki-44.

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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2010, 08:22:11 AM »
Ah... :aok

All that aside I'd like to see the J2m make it into the game as well. Along with K-43 variants and the Ki-44.

yeah i think it would be a great addition as well
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Re: just wanted to make this official (sort of)
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2010, 08:32:36 AM »
Really?  I've read the J2M3 had a ceiling of over 38,000 feet.  Pretty hard to get up there without an intake compressor, neh?

EDIT:
This page at the NASM lists the earlier Kasei models 21 and 22 (the J2M3 mounted a model 23a) as both having two-speed "blowers" i.e., superchargers:

http://www.enginehistory.org/Japanese/nasm_research_2.htm


Yep, I think it's quite safe to say that all WWII operational fighters had somesort of supercharger...starting from the lowly Bristol Bulldog powered with the 645hp Mercury. :)

It's a pretty absurd suggestion that a 1850hp piston aircraft engine wouldn't have one. :)
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