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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2010, 02:44:13 PM »
I wonder how many of you guys saying "no way" or "HiTech said..." would be squealing if grass airfields were added with the current landing requirements. Wouldn't be too difficult if the runways were dirt but, if there was just grass with some light markings that would make things more difficult. Suppose it would make sense then to have it set to "within the perimeter".

As it is right now, it's on any part of the concrete whether it's a runway, taxiway or between two hangars, as long as the plane is on the concrete.

Like in the WWI arenas?  Who'da thunk it.

And, what exactly would be the difference between a "ditch" and a "combat loss"?  Location?



Ok guys thanks for the answers... just had to ask. So how can we get some stuff done around here? say the new gvs and aircraft or just........idk something.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2010, 02:47:26 PM »
You can actually land anywhere on 'packed dirt' or tarmac...ie you can land on the strip that GVs spawn on on the small base.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2010, 03:17:38 PM »
I say make it harder, lose +10 perkies for a ditch on field, off runway

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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2010, 03:47:02 PM »
And, what exactly would be the difference between a "ditch" and a "combat loss"?  Location?
Yes, it's location now isn't it? "Land" anywhere except on the concrete or cv deck and it's a ditch. I can understand the reasons why it is the way it is, but there is merit in the argument of putting the plane down anywhere within the perimeter of the airfield and count it as a "safe landing"...trying to belly land a plane that has no landing gear is tough to do...let alone doing it with pieces of wing or stabilizers missing...add a pilot wound and you're really working for it...if you happen to miss the concrete but still put the plane down without blowing it up, it should count for something besides a ditch.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2010, 05:56:40 PM »


Maybe fly what's available a little first?


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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2010, 06:33:31 PM »
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Yes, it's location now isn't it? "Land" anywhere except on the concrete or cv deck and it's a ditch. I can understand the reasons why it is the way it is, but there is merit in the argument of putting the plane down anywhere within the perimeter of the airfield and count it as a "safe landing"...trying to belly land a plane that has no landing gear is tough to do...let alone doing it with pieces of wing or stabilizers missing...add a pilot wound and you're really working for it...if you happen to miss the concrete but still put the plane down without blowing it up, it should count for something besides a ditch.

Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.

It already counts as something - you're not MIA=KIA=1 death. It counts as a 'ditch' and that's about as good as any 'reward' people deserve.

Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'

Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.

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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2010, 08:37:04 PM »
I say make it harder, lose +10 perkies for a ditch on field, off runway
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2010, 12:30:04 AM »
Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.

It already counts as something - you're not MIA=KIA=1 death. It counts as a 'ditch' and that's about as good as any 'reward' people deserve.

Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'

Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.

   

Your right sir I merely wanted it to not count as ditch within the perimeter by no means should you be able to land kills there but I dont believe it should be a ditch either. Some people instantly think this about landing kills,I dont. I just dont think it should be a ditch in the middle of the field thats all.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2010, 07:38:42 AM »
Were it in real life, the odds of a shot-up plane landing anywhere else from the tarmac would be severely damaged and more than likely need to be scrapped. It is in no way a "successful landing", and the greatest reward you can expect is that you survived it.
Since you went with real life, the pilot is more valuable than the plane...having the pilot survive and return to duty even if his aircraft doesn't, that is the success.


Otherwise, geez, if people can just crash-land plane anywhere within the field and still land the kills, why the fek would people ever want to try and land safely? You can mow through people in a friggin LALA, and speed yourway to your airfield with angry people behind you, ditch ASAP anywhere on the field and .ef just before enemy fire starts connecting and still be able to get all them kills. That's about the lamest abuse one can think of if we start counting 'ditches within field' as 'safe landings.'

Landings and takeoffs are a vital part of what makes a good pilot, even in simplified environment like in AH, and the ability to counter the effects of your battle damage and safely put it down on the runway counts as something.
Hey, I agree it wouldn't work within AH with all the gamey people there are, but I think you missed the part where right now you can put it down anywhere on the field as long as the area of the airplane where the wheels would be is touching concrete when it comes to a stop, it's a safe landing.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2010, 08:49:55 AM »
I've landed blacked out, deadstick, with half a wing and didn't know if I was on the runway until I ended sortie. It's more fun when it's more difficult.

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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2010, 01:35:54 PM »
I've landed blacked out, deadstick, with half a wing and didn't know if I was on the runway until I ended sortie. It's more fun when it's more difficult.
wow......guess knife fighting ina phone booth with no lights is difficult. Must be fun I ll have to try that sometime. How bout a I16 over a capped field with 6 guys tryin to vulch you and once youve been shot up you attempt to land and ditch over you own field.......not real fun and I dont think it ever will be.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2010, 02:01:19 PM »
wow......guess knife fighting ina phone booth with no lights is difficult. Must be fun I ll have to try that sometime. How bout a I16 over a capped field with 6 guys tryin to vulch you and once youve been shot up you attempt to land and ditch over you own field.......not real fun and I dont think it ever will be.

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It's plenty fair that if you can't park it on the runway, it's a ditch.  Hell it should be a ditch if it s so tore up that you can't move it under it's own power upon landing, concrete or not.  It has to be ditched or abandoned since you can't taxi or fly it anywhere anymore.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2010, 03:02:58 PM »
I once limped home two sectors in an A-20 with no ailerons and no rudder, steering only with my elevators and differential throttle.  I made a three point landing on the runway and landed my two kills.  It was one of the most satisfying Aces High experiences for me.  So yeah, keep things the way they are.
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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2010, 03:17:37 PM »
I once limped home two sectors in an A-20 with no ailerons and no rudder, steering only with my elevators and differential throttle.  I made a three point landing on the runway and landed my two kills.  It was one of the most satisfying Aces High experiences for me.  So yeah, keep things the way they are.

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Re: Landing Succesfully
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2010, 09:44:03 PM »
thats why I like haveing 2 engines. :)
Lucky for me i fly w/ 4 engines, but unfortunately some times that's not even enough. However, i enjoy the torque of pulling faster then some fighter planes at high altitudes.  :D
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