Author Topic: Flying Boats, Which one's?, and Why do we want theam? (Read 949 times)

Raubvogel · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2001, 06:17:00 PM »

I want that plane from the old TV show The Golden Monkey.

stahler · « **Reply #16 on:** November 16, 2001, 07:49:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Raubvogel:
I want that plane from the old TV show The Golden Monkey.

The Grumman G21-A 'Goose' is a cool plane, but would be totally useless in the arena.

[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: stahler ]

brady · « **Reply #17 on:** November 16, 2001, 07:59:00 PM »

Man I miss that show

Hobodog · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2001, 02:51:00 PM »

Snef if we added that people would be getting kills from 5k. I mean well its just um alittle um BiG maybe?

shaunmcl · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2001, 07:49:00 PM »

Big jesus thats an understatement some of those beasts would put the b17 or even b19 or even b51 to shame turrets in the wings holy crap what next turrets in the ammm? rudder or landing gear i didnt know planes that big existed during WW2 anyway yes please bring them to aces high we could also have harpoons in them to kill wales or sharks

brady · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2002, 07:42:46 PM »

Critter · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2002, 09:06:57 PM »

I say...

a Sunderland, a Catalina, an Emily AND (insert German ride here)!

just so nobody would raise a fit about who gets what. I think in all actuality, there should be at least one from each side, Axis and Allied.
Call me a goofball, but even with better options... I have a soft spot for the Catalina

-ammo- · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2002, 09:23:16 PM »

I say the addition of a flying boat would be make a nice mantle piece that would stay in the hanger. In essence, a waste of HTC's time. Now a B24, or a Beafighter (Austarian model), or even a ME410, now that would be more bang for your buck.

brady · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2002, 01:33:43 AM »

Look at the load that the Coranado can carry, that is a usefull platform.

jan · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2002, 05:23:45 AM »

regarding to the sunderland: definately don´t think it would be dead meat in the arena. i know of a incident where one sunderland got involved in a battle with six (!) ju88 near the coast of norway. outcome was, the sunderland downed one ju88, damaged another one, and made the four others flee - i´ll post a referer asap (i know this story is haunting my book shelf somewhere).

anyways, i still think the addition of flying boats wouldn´t be that big. they´re slow, huuuge (i.e. easy to spot, easy to hit) and also they need a scenery where they would face extensive sub and ground traffic, i.e. as long as there are no subs and only cv or pt groups, i don´t see a point in flying those winged barns. prove me wrong plz :))

Jester · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2002, 05:28:35 AM »

I would have to agree with Ammo - while the big boats and float planes would be a "Novelty" and nice to have - they would quickly become hangar queens. You would have a few die hards fly them but on the average most of the flock are going to grab planes with better performance. The only two exceptions to this might be the Emily & PBY, PBM or Corornado. They could be used for both bombing, supply or troop transport.

IMO HTC would do better to work on the big players missing from the planes set such as the Axis Carrier attack planes, land based dive bombers such as the Stuka & heavy bombers such as the HE177 for the Axis side players.

P.S. By the way Karnac - the Emily did not carry the big 24" Long Lance Topedoes - only the CA's, DD's & SS's did. All aircraft carriered the 21" torps.

Critter · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2002, 10:48:44 AM »

ok... that is something I'll never understand. Everyone is always begging HTC for a different Letter version of the same damn plane. OOOOh I want a such and such E. Nooo I want such and such E.1! Is it just me that wants some entirely new aircraft that haven't been done to death in another sim? I think the fact that someof these birds are amphibious, thus giving them different places to take off and land from is something galctically cooler than the same aircraft with the only difference being that it had a marginally better engine giving it .002 MPH faster than the other previous versions or having the ability to carry drop tanks, or 2 rockets more. I know that it's a much bigger undertaking to model a completely new aircraft, especially on that can take off and land on water or land but it CAN be done. (Explain the LVTs) They would also become exponentially more important if we enabled a pilot rescue system. I give you the following scenario: A PBY takes off from a land base on a recon mission. That Bish PBY flies around and spots the carrier group and then alerts the other Bishes. They up a mission to sink it from their own carrier group. While the PBY is circling overhead he sees a sub headed right for the Bish CV. Swoops down and after a short while, does away with the sub. The Bishes sink the CV group and a few guys who brought home some kills had to bail and are in the water. The PBY flies down to them, picks them up and flies them back to their CV. Since he is within X distance of the CV, he can .ef and gets a "you have landed successfully" He's happy with his new perkies and goes about his business.

Sorry for the semi rant.... I just feel the need to defend potential future existence of flying boats in AH

-ammo- · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2002, 11:07:12 AM »

NP at all, you are entitled a rant. However that doesnt eman it will be heeded:)

brady · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2002, 07:44:45 PM »

Obviously the Coranado and Emily would be usefull because of thier loads and defensive firpower, the other Fighter type aircraft, would be usfull if these planes were enabled from Ports, or V bases near the water, and or Seaplane tenders, providing special T/O poimts for these planes would help to make theam more atractive to use, Port under attack ,CV no whear near by..grab a REX and defend the empire:)

Tumor · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2002, 11:15:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Critter
ok... that is something I'll never understand. Everyone is always begging HTC for a different Letter version of the same damn plane. OOOOh I want a such and such E. Nooo I want such and such E.1! Is it just me that wants some entirely new aircraft that haven't been done to death in another sim?

I agree totally if it makes you feel any better. I'd rather see 2 completely new aircraft than 6 "new" versions of what we have.