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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 01:09:44 PM »
Has almost no place in the war. Was a VIP transport, that's its claim to fame.
LOL...here we go again....it does fit the criteria for inclusion Krusty.
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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 01:17:48 PM »
Sure... The criteria are not very demanding.

Read up on it. Seriously, the Soviets barely used the things. They did NOT have a big heavy bomber fleet, and they did NOT do carpet bombing like the US and Britain did. Folks keep requesting it because they think it's big therefore important, but the opposite is true. The Fw200 condor was more important to the war than this plane was. It had longer range, too. It even carried bombs! Zomgbbq!


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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2010, 01:45:18 PM »
Krusty is exaggerating a bit, but is essentially correct.  The Pe-8 played a very minor roll in WWII.

The Russian bombers we should be asking for are the SB-2, Il-4, Pe-2 and Tu-2.
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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2010, 04:47:30 PM »
The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use but yet everyone begs for it.

However, in the scope of things I do agree that the Tu-2 would probably be a better bomber to add in. I like flying big heavy bombers and the Pe-8 with its armament would be a GREAT MA bomber, but in the end, the time to model it would equal that of 2 medium bombers.

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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2010, 06:29:34 PM »
"The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use".

'Twas the other way round, dear feller: it was a bomber poorly disguised as a civilian transport. On the other hand, the Dornier Do17 started life as a slimline mailplane with room for a very few passengers who had to perform contortions to take their seats; unsurprisingly Lufthansa rejected it but the new Luftwaffe found a use for a development of it as a recce-bomber.

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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2010, 06:48:06 PM »
The He-111 was also a transport that was converted for bomber use but yet everyone begs for it.

Please, Beefcake, the He-111 was the main Luftwaffe bomber for in Early War, BoB and Barbarossa, and more! We don't beg it because of it's looks or performances, we beg for it because it is as basic in a WW2 game like the Spitfite or the 109!

I also agree that the Pe-8 is not worth modelling. This was a total flop at the time and didn't had a significant role during the war. There are other soviet bombers that had a real role in the war and should be represented in AH. The Tupolev and the Pe-2 come to mind. Never before the 111, the Betty and the SM-79, please.

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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2010, 03:27:59 AM »
would love to have this plane +2
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Re: Russian Pe-8
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2010, 09:43:05 AM »
The Pe-2 or Tu-2 would be a more logical choice.  The Soviets had far more of them and they made a much larger impact on the war.
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