Razorback P-47D 23

[oakranger]

It would have to be perked. 

I was thinking of the same. 

[Seadog36]

It would have to be perked. 

I don't see why really, the f6f has a full ord package w hvar rockets and is powered by the same R-2800 radial engine as the jug and it is not perked. I could understand a higher ENY, although, if HTC perked it I would finally have something to spend my fighter perks on.

[Ack-Ack]

It would have to be perked. 

I was thinking of the same. 

Why would it need to be perked? 


ack-ack

[oakranger]

Why would it need to be perked? 


ack-ack

Because i said so.

[CPW]

I think a P-47D-22-RE or D-23-RA with malcolm hood is better.

Malcolm hood P-47
http://www.ww2incolor.com/us-air-force/p-47+5th+eme.html
http://img641.imageshack.us/i/3p47scaleaviationmodell.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4599/p47d23.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/i/p47d15.jpg/
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4575/german1945.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9582/forcelanding.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1451/yankeeclipper.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8131/snowforcelanding.jpg
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=106545&page=10
http://p47.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=144622&page=1

B-24 bubble modification:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4885/p47d21.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9018/b24mod.jpg
http://photos.kitmaker.net/data/20616/cowling3.jpg


P47D-22&D-23
The D-22-RE saw the two factories begin to use different propellers. At Farmingdale the D-22 used a Hamilton Standard Hydramatic 244E50-65 propeller, which had wider, longer propeller blades than the Curtis Electric propeller used on earlier aircraft. The new propeller improved the performance of the aircraft by making better use of the high level of power provided by the engine.

The D-23 saw Evansville also change propellers, but to the Curtis Electric C542S propeller. This was similar is size and concept to the Hamilton model used on the D-22.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-47D.html

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 The 3.71 meter (12 foot 2 inch) Curtiss propeller was replaced by new and bigger propellers, the Long Island plant moving to a Hamilton Standard propeller with a diameter of 4.01 meters (13 feet 1-7/8 inches), and the Evansville plant moving to a new Curtiss propeller with a diameter of 3.96 meters (13 feet). The new propeller further boosted the climb rate, and Luftwaffe pilots now found they couldn't get away from the P-47 by climbing.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avp47.html#m5

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Many of the Fighter Groups flying the P-47 in June of '44 were still flying some of the older "razor back" models with the framed canopy. These included the ultimate "razor back", the P-47D-23-RA. This Evansville built fighter was equipped with the latest Curtiss Electric paddle blade propeller. Of all the D models, this one was the fastest and best climbing.

http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/aircraft/p-47/7.html


P-47 propellers
http://www.hfmodeling.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=128328&page=1

[Plazus]

Because i said so.

I was thinking of the same. 

  Seriously? The D-11 has an advantage to the D-25 in all categories of manuevering: climb, speed, turn, and roll is basically the same. The only thing the D-25 has is better visibility. There is no warrant for it to be perked. Even with the ord capability.

[oakranger]

Seriously? The D-11 has an advantage to the D-25 in all categories of manuevering: climb, speed, turn, and roll is basically the same. The only thing the D-25 has is better visibility. There is no warrant for it to be perked. Even with the ord capability.

So, lets trash the D-25 and give us the D-30

[321BAR]

I love jugs!!!!
 but i am in agreement, we need other stuff now!
M-18
yak-3
Well those two and then a new jug!! lol

M-18!!![/size]

[Wagger]

An extra pair of jugs would be great. But if you can get me a recliner, Slim Jim  and a beer to go along with them life would be complete.

[oakranger]

An extra pair of jugs would be great. But if you can get me a recliner, Slim Jim  and a beer to go along with them life would be complete.

I cam send you the slim jim and beer.  The recliner you are on you own....oh wait, i have one that i am selling.......but that trip is to far to send. 

[Seadog36]

Great research! I love it when someone helps illuminate the underrated and under acknowledged P-47. I actually prefer the birdcage to the malcolm hood and think the P-51B should be changed back to the birdcage in MW because they were such generally a rare modification.

I think a P-47D-22-RE or D-23-RA with malcolm hood is better.

Malcolm hood P-47
http://www.ww2incolor.com/us-air-force/p-47+5th+eme.html
http://img641.imageshack.us/i/3p47scaleaviationmodell.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4599/p47d23.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/i/p47d15.jpg/
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4575/german1945.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9582/forcelanding.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1451/yankeeclipper.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8131/snowforcelanding.jpg
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=106545&page=10
http://p47.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=144622&page=1

B-24 bubble modification:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4885/p47d21.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9018/b24mod.jpg
http://photos.kitmaker.net/data/20616/cowling3.jpg


P47D-22&D-23
The D-22-RE saw the two factories begin to use different propellers. At Farmingdale the D-22 used a Hamilton Standard Hydramatic 244E50-65 propeller, which had wider, longer propeller blades than the Curtis Electric propeller used on earlier aircraft. The new propeller improved the performance of the aircraft by making better use of the high level of power provided by the engine.

The D-23 saw Evansville also change propellers, but to the Curtis Electric C542S propeller. This was similar is size and concept to the Hamilton model used on the D-22.

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-47D.html

---------

 The 3.71 meter (12 foot 2 inch) Curtiss propeller was replaced by new and bigger propellers, the Long Island plant moving to a Hamilton Standard propeller with a diameter of 4.01 meters (13 feet 1-7/8 inches), and the Evansville plant moving to a new Curtiss propeller with a diameter of 3.96 meters (13 feet). The new propeller further boosted the climb rate, and Luftwaffe pilots now found they couldn't get away from the P-47 by climbing.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avp47.html#m5

---------

Many of the Fighter Groups flying the P-47 in June of '44 were still flying some of the older "razor back" models with the framed canopy. These included the ultimate "razor back", the P-47D-23-RA. This Evansville built fighter was equipped with the latest Curtiss Electric paddle blade propeller. Of all the D models, this one was the fastest and best climbing.

http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/aircraft/p-47/7.html


P-47 propellers
http://www.hfmodeling.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=128328&page=1

[Stoney]

So, lets trash the D-25 and give us the D-30

They are basically the same plane.  Being a PTO Jug fanboi myself, I'd love to see a P-47D-23 ingame.  But, it will be a long time coming, if ever.  And, without a Malcolm hood.

[oakranger]

They are basically the same plane.  Being a PTO Jug fanboi myself, I'd love to see a P-47D-23 ingame.  But, it will be a long time coming, if ever.  And, without a Malcolm hood.

Here is a question that i was thinking about.  why do we have the D-11, 25 and 40 when there where a wide range of the "D" class?  What about the "G" class?  how do they stand up to the "D" class?

[321BAR]

Here is a question that i was thinking about.  why do we have the D-11, 25 and 40 when there where a wide range of the "D" class?  What about the "G" class?  how do they stand up to the "D" class?

P47G models were only D identicals but built by Curtis iirc

[oakranger]

P47G models were only D identicals but built by Curtis iirc

Ah, thx.