Razorback P-47D 23

[WWhiskey]

I would not mind too.  Then they can have the D23 in the Mid War Arena. 

+1   

[Stoney]

I would not mind too.  Then they can have the D23 in the Mid War Arena. 

D-23 was a mid-to-late 1944 bird, and therefore wouldn't fit into the mid-war time line.

[WWhiskey]

D-23 was a mid-to-late 1944 bird, and therefore wouldn't fit into the mid-war time line.

BUZZ Killer!

[Seadog36]

Stoney you are such a difficult Jughead, nothing gets by you . How about another Kearby ride; D-15? First model factory with wing pylons, can't find the exact deployment dates, but that should squeak into the MW time line, not that it won't fall on deaf ears! anyway

[Stoney]

Stoney you are such a difficult Jughead, nothing gets by you . How about another Kearby ride; D-15? First model factory with wing pylons, can't find the exact deployment dates, but that should squeak into the MW time line, not that it won't fall on deaf ears! anyway

Well, I think the D-23 is the model they should add, as the 22/23 series was the second most prolific model after the 25/30 series.  That doesn't help us out in the MW arena though.  Honestly, the P-47's first combat in ETO was spring of '43 (C models) and fall '43 in PTO.  It was pretty much a late arrival into the war really.  The last of the major U.S. fighters in fact.  So, the D-11 would really be the only model that would fit the MW arena criteria. 

On the other hand, the F6F-5 is in the MW arena, and it shouldn't be.  The F6F-3 would be the proper Hellcat for the MW arena.  I'm not sure how that got added, so perhaps there's a chance a late-war razorback could be included.

[CPW]

Horsepower rating was different: D-25 rated at 2200hp vs. 2600hp for the D-40.  The D-30, is identical to the D-25, except for the dorsal fin.  That's it.  That's why I thought it was goofy that we had D-30 skins on the D-40, but meh...

I wish we had a D-23, but the D-25 was the most numerous model made, and thus, in my opinion, worthy of being represented in-game.  Realistically, the D-40 really came along pretty late in the ball-game, only beating the M by a few months.

By my links, I think most pre D-25/26s rated at 2300hp, then raised to 2430 from D-27, finally got 2600hp in late period. But it may retrofitted to earlier model, therefore a 2300/2430/2600hp boosted D-22/23 could be the fastest of D series (match the red line in my last reply).

Besides, the most numerous model was D-30 actually, about 2,600 built.

[Stoney]

By my links, I think most pre D-25/26s rated at 2300hp, then raised to 2430 from D-27, finally got 2600hp in late period. But it may retrofitted to earlier model, therefore a 2300/2430/2600hp boosted D-22/23 could be the fastest of D series (match the red line in my last reply).

Besides, the most numerous model was D-30 actually, about 2,600 built.

You're right about the 2300 for the D-25.  I should have looked that one up first.  Dean in America's Hundred Thousand lists the D-25/28 with the most production copies, followed by the D-30, then the D-21/23.

[Seadog36]

Enough of the semantics, how do we forward the agenda Stoney. Who should hear this squeaky wheel? How does this wishlist go down the chain of command? I've emailed skuzzy and he says he has nothing to do with it.

[Stoney]

Enough of the semantics, how do we forward the agenda Stoney. Who should hear this squeaky wheel? How does this wishlist go down the chain of command? I've emailed skuzzy and he says he has nothing to do with it.

Don't know buddy...We made a case for the P-47M saying that it would be an easy addition, at least from a modeling standpoint, as the D-25 or D-40 model would work for the M.  I suppose the same argument could be made for the D-23 with respect to the existing D-11 model, although since it has drop tanks and bigger fuel tanks in addition to the power changes, it may be a tougher thing to do.

The D-23 would open up a lot of capability for special events as well.  But, there's a large portion of the player base who feel like there are enough/too many Jug models already, so be prepared for some push-back.