US Navy vs US Marine Corps

[Dadsguns]

........Basically, all it comes down to now is deciding whether I want to join the Navy or the Corps.

What I want out of the service is simple, I want to fly. I have my pilot's license, powered AND glider. My grades are NOT the top of my class in high school.............

Sounds like your over qualified to be an Army pilot.......        

I am biased after 24 years in the USAF, I now work with the navy every day and have to say I have run into more knuckleheads in the Navy than in th AF. 

Slow your roll oh biased one, there are enough knuckleheads in all the services to go around as well as your beloved AF.  The one thing I have never seen from any service BUT the AF was sending AF support personnel into a combat zone with "0" absolutely NO WEAPONS TRAINING!!   

[jollyFE]

There's a few of us in the USAF that have had a bit of weapons training..................... ........Combat Controllers, Para-Rescue, combat weather, TAC-P's, all our security forces folks, all aircrew get some type of weapons training and as all of my fellow special ops and csar brothers and sisters can attest,we  are very familiar with the weapons we fly with.  Heck, even when I was a crew chief I had to go re-qualify on the M-16 before I pcs'd to Korea. We all had to shoot the 16 in basic.   I wasn't saying there weren't alot of knuckleheads in the AF, just seemed to be a abnormally high number in the navy.

[VonMessa]

The Marines are a department of the Navy......






















The Men's department     

[Selino631]

Since you are intrested in flying helo's have you considerd the Army at all? Army Aviators fly the most sophisticated helicopers in the world.

[VonMessa]

Helicopters do not fly.....     

They beat the air into submission

[Selino631]

Helicopters do not fly.....     

They beat the air into submission

 

[kilo2]

I am in college now so one day I can fly one of those army helicopters. Any one of them will do but I would like to fly either a Kiowa or a Apache. The crazy thing is if I wanted to really I could get in the pilot program with a associates degree but I am getting my bachelors.

The army is the place to be if you want to fly helicopters.

[Babalonian]

Navy = a job

USMC = a career

That said, if you expect to be a Navy pilot, you best plan on majoring in engineering or physics and taking 5 years to get your degree.  If you go USMC and major in anything that starts with "B.S." you can graduate in 4 years.  Truth is that USN expects pilots to understand higher math to a functional degree,, while the USMC expects pilots to be only able to spell "math".  The USAF expects pilots to be able to teach higher mathmatics to people like Hawking, Heisenberg, and Einstein; even if they are dead. 

I somewhat agree, I think the Navy holds their pilots to a higher degree than the USMC on a few levels for essentialy the same thing in the end when ya boil it down.  However I've known two Navy pilots (one rotary, the other F-18 (until after all that training he and the Navy figured out that after a couple weeks at sea he gets huge long-term sea-sickness,   even on something as big as a carrier) and ultimatley mutli-engine) and one USMC pilot (rotary: blackhawks, cobras and heuies when he started).  After they finished up with their active duty the two Navy pilots had a job signed up before they got out (One flying Fed-Ex cargos, the other for a private firm that is usually contracted to work for power utilities), but my Marine budy only gets to fly these days in the reserve (he's always been looking though, ended up falling back on his EMT training he got in the millitary and his dad helped him get a job in the LA City FD pdq as an EMT when he got outa the service and found himself without a job to support him, his wife and newborn).  He has however been on the FDs list for their helicopters and pilot openings, I think he's finaly getting a break after waiting this long and starting some training this summer to begin certification (still up in the air if he'll ever get a spot, but it's hope and he's working hard for it).

So while I agree that hte Navy expects and demands more from their pilots, I think in the end it might pay off because potential employers know this too.

(I also come from a proud Navy family, so if I had to nudge ya in one firection or the other... but the Marines are still an excellent choice )

[Stoney]

I think the Navy holds their pilots to a higher degree than the USMC

Odd since they both go to the same flight school at which the instructor pilots are both Navy and Marine Corps.

[Babalonian]

Odd since they both go to the same flight school at which the instructor pilots are both Navy and Marine Corps.

You're taking it out of context, paste on the last half of my sentence and maybe it'll strike a chord.

[GtoRA2]

USMC pilot (rotary: blackhawks, cobras and heuies when he started).

When did the Marine's get Blackhawks?

[Babalonian]

When did the Marine's get Blackhawks?

Post-USMC, he got the training on them going into the Army Reserve even though he still ends up flying a hueie most of the time as he's explained it to me (a couple years ago or so, recently he's jsut been sharing his progress in the LACFD helos)

[Saurdaukar]

Granted the USN maintains the PRT and Body Fat % but, it's not that hard. Plus, in my day we had "smoke breaks" half way through the 1.5 mile run and the stopwatch always magically broke at 13:50.

toejam; I should have joined the Navy.  If I recall correctly, my best PFT run time was 19:00-ish.


























We had to run three miles, though.  

[Stoney]

he still ends up flying a hueie

It's spelled "Huey".

[Serenity]

Since you are intrested in flying helo's have you considerd the Army at all? Army Aviators fly the most sophisticated helicopers in the world.

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I'm interested in anything that gets more than a couple inches off the ground

Difference is, I HAVE the scholarship for both USN and USMC.