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America: The story of us
« on: April 26, 2010, 12:37:22 AM »
Once again, they botch up our history by leaving out the French and Indian War.  Wounder how much they will screw up the Civil war and Sioux War. 
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 12:59:28 AM »
Well it was French vs British not really our history. Kind of but not really we were still part of the British empire. Just saying. And it really in the scheme of things is not that important compared to the revolution.
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 01:15:37 AM »
Well it was French vs British not really our history. Kind of but not really we were still part of the British empire. Just saying. And it really in the scheme of things is not that important compared to the revolution.

Oh, my dear friend.  the F&I War was a important part of Pre-American History.  If the French would have won the war, the outcome of this vary nation would not be the same as to the rest of the world.   
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 01:22:42 AM »
I agree with you had potential to change the nation but it ended up not happening. And again it was the french and the british fighting. I understand why they left it out and I understand why you would like it to be included. I don't think they botched history by excluding it.
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 02:30:29 AM »
The only resulting significance of the f&i war was that the french got pushed up into canada, we dont speak french now, and a shift of economic power in europe, nothing really that significant for the americans.

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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 06:15:41 AM »
I thought they did an ok job with the first show, It was nice to see the History Channel have something on about.............History
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 06:22:55 AM »
ok job? they skipped Concord Bunker Hill and Evacuation Day and went straight for Washington in NY!!! :mad: Ticonderoga and its cannon was left out also!!!
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 06:34:44 AM »
When the British won the F&I war, they levied a heavy war tax on the 13 colonies to pay for the conflict. This unfair tax was a prelude to the hostilities to come in the Revolution.
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 07:24:53 AM »
Although I'll admit the taxes certainly may have been a catalyst for the war, to say the taxes were unfair is a bit asinine. Last I checked the American's surely helped start the F&I war because of the fur that was abundant in Ohio. The British ended up fighting that war while we continued to smuggle and sell wares to the French which probably only prolonged the war. In the end they didn't want to pay a tax for a war that helped protect their own interests that the British couldn't enforce properly anyways due to the fact that they were across the Atlantic ocean. I'm not entirely sure I'd call this unfair...

In the end though I'd certainty say it has its proper place in American history and by no means is unimportant.
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:56:26 AM »
ok job? they skipped Concord Bunker Hill and Evacuation Day and went straight for Washington in NY!!! :mad: Ticonderoga and its cannon was left out also!!!

Trying to pack everything regarding the war into the span of time they have would be impossible, heck they could make a 10day miniseries on the war. I think for the sake of moving things along things will be skipped.  Im just glad its a show about history on ............(wait for it )............................. ...........THE HISTORY CHANNEL.

And yes, i think they did an ok job

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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 10:25:12 AM »
The F&I War was a battle the determine who holds control of present day America.  However, what is more important about the war is the people who fought in it, the Native American Indians.  Mostly Iroquois Nation but many other nation aswell.  It is unknowed as to how many fought and die but they played a significat role in the war. 
Like most American history, the history of Native American Indian tends to be left out.  When this series comes to the western frontier, I would not be surprise that they will not talk about broken treaties, assimilation, massacre and biological war fare the U.S. Government and military practice on the Plains Indians, South western Indians and Rocky Mt Indians. 
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 10:51:39 AM »
Although I'll admit the taxes certainly may have been a catalyst for the war, to say the taxes were unfair is a bit asinine. Last I checked the American's surely helped start the F&I war because of the fur that was abundant in Ohio. The British ended up fighting that war while we continued to smuggle and sell wares to the French which probably only prolonged the war. In the end they didn't want to pay a tax for a war that helped protect their own interests that the British couldn't enforce properly anyways due to the fact that they were across the Atlantic ocean. I'm not entirely sure I'd call this unfair...

In the end though I'd certainty say it has its proper place in American history and by no means is unimportant.

"Unfair" in the sense that it was forced upon the colonists without representation in parliament. I didn't say that the colonist shouldn't have paid taxes at all. What matters is that the colonists saw it as unfair, and since their viewpoint is the central perspective here then whether or not any of us today would deem it as unfair is irrelevant.
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 06:09:06 PM »
I have to agree with the OP. I hear some saying the F&I War "was a French vs. British thing" while totally forgetting about the large amount of Native Americans that were involved in the struggle. To leave that part of our history as Americans is a mistake.

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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 06:14:43 PM »
Who is "they"?
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Re: America: The story of us
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 06:44:37 PM »
Who is "they"?

The history channel. 
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