Mosquito Mk VI questions

[lyric1]

For those who don't know they were not just built in England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mGOLmWWbg

[SgtPappy]

Oh, no, definitely not.

Many of them were built in the exact place I used to volunteer, in Toronto. Nearly a third of Mosquito production was over the pond, here in Canada and the only thing I will have trouble parting with on the current Mossie is the small, proud maple leaf emblem on the Navigator's side of the nose.

Hopefully someone will make a new, Canadian skin for the Canucks! It would go great with a re-vamped version of Bozon's "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder..." thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,206568.0.html

[Scherf]

Sights and sounds of what SgtPappy's referring to are here:

http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=exhibit_home&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000430


SgtPappy - are they still making progress on the Lanc out there? The only time I got to the museum, there was a wee Scotsman working on it, bringing back memories of his youth when he flew them.

[Karnak]

SgtPappy,

I imagine we'll be seeing a 418 skin really soon after release.  I'd use it as well.

[SgtPappy]

Sights and sounds of what SgtPappy's referring to are here:

http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=exhibit_home&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000430


SgtPappy - are they still making progress on the Lanc out there? The only time I got to the museum, there was a wee Scotsman working on it, bringing back memories of his youth when he flew them.

Yea, the Lanc's still being worked on... it'll take another 9 years max, they say. The Scotsman was Philip Gray. It was awesome to be in the presence of that man every weekend. He told us a lot of his epic missions into Germany.

Right now, the Lanc's looking better than before. The tail turret has been installed, the mid-fuselage is in position and the entire section from the nose to just behind the cockpit canopy/roof has been refurbished. THere's a lot more work to do though. If you're able to come down in May, don't miss the Wings and Wheels event: http://www.wingsandwheelsfestival.com/home.html

Sure wish we could have a Mosquito fly in though. But there's a helluva lot more to see too!

Karnak,

I'd be very grateful for a skin like that! I'm sure the aircraft will be popular for skin-makers.

[LLogann]

Wow, I got in late to this thread.......... But I digress........






Forget the Aussie's....... The MapleLeaf's had good wood and made a fine Mossie! 

For those who don't know they were not just built in England.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mGOLmWWbg

[SgtPappy]

Hey, I would never forget the Aussies  They built a good amount of their own Mosquito FB's as well.

I think it's actually a shame we don't hear much about the Mosquitoes in the CBI/PTO. Apparently the gluing process used in some factories didn't hold up in the humid temperatures there (Wiki states these factories were Standard Motors and Hatfield). Still, I'm sure they did some good work worth hearing in the Far East. If anyone has information on that topic, please post pictures and articles!



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[Guppy35]

Yes, of course that is true of 418.  None the less, Mossie VIs did sortie even in other units without ordnance.  It was not all that uncommon for some of the VIs to be carrying bombs and others to be clean acting as fighter escorts for the ones with bombs in low level operations.  I was not trying to imply that carrying bombs was rare for Mossie VIs as it most certainly was not.  I was just pointing out that using it as a fighter is also appropriate.

Well when we get my Beaufighter, you Mossie drivers will have to fly high cover on the run to Norway 

[Karnak]

Well when we get my Beaufighter, you Mossie drivers will have to fly high cover on the run to Norway 

That would be fun.  Big British twins vs. the Luftwaffe.

Even more fun if they add the Ju88C-6 to be used as an opposition fighter. 

(Well, might not be all that fun for the Ju88s.  )

[Guppy35]

That would be fun.  Big British twins vs. the Luftwaffe.

Even more fun if they add the Ju88C-6 to be used as an opposition fighter. 

(Well, might not be all that fun for the Ju88s.  )

I can see it now.  A nice map with high cliffs and Fjords.  Shipping tucked in with lots of flak guns.  Norway based 109s and 190s.  RAF Mustangs covering the Mossies and Beaus going in on the deck.....

Ahh well, one can dream

[SectorNine50]

Quesiton:
What are ejector stacks...?

[Karnak]

Look at the photo of the Mosquito on this page.  On each engine, you can see the exhaust stubs.  Those are ejector stacks.  If you launch AH and grab a Mosquito and look at its engines, you will see that area of the engine cowling is covered up, under it would be a device that resembles a saxophone that cools the exhaust gasses and prevents the flare from being visible.

On aircraft with ejector stacks they can receive up to about 10% of the engines power as thrust due to the exhaust gasses being directed.

For example, the only powerplant change from a 332mph A6M3 Zero to a 350mph A6M5 Zero is the addition of ejector stacks to direct the exhaust to the rear, causing forward thrust.

[SmokinLoon]

Look at the photo of the Mosquito on this page.  On each engine, you can see the exhaust stubs.  Those are ejector stacks.  If you launch AH and grab a Mosquito and look at its engines, you will see that area of the engine cowling is covered up, under it would be a device that resembles a saxophone that cools the exhaust gasses and prevents the flare from being visible.

On aircraft with ejector stacks they can receive up to about 10% of the engines power as thrust due to the exhaust gasses being directed.

For example, the only powerplant change from a 332mph A6M3 Zero to a 350mph A6M5 Zero is the addition of ejector stacks to direct the exhaust to the rear, causing forward thrust.

... but in the case of our beloved Mossi Bf Mk VI, the addition of the ejector stacks/flame dampers creates more drag to offset any benefit "thrust" it may receiver.  Statistics show less than %20 of the Mossi FB MK IV has the flame dampers installed. *goes to dig out source*

[Karnak]

SmokinLoon,

I recall Kev (I think) posting that about 2/3rds of Mossie FB.VIs had the ejector stacks.  I don't know what you are saying about them causing more drag, or what you mean about "jector stacks/flame dampers" as usually a slash in that context is used to separate two things that are equivalent and in this case you are using it as a separator for things which are opposite.

The ejector stacks provide thrust but produce exhaust flares, the flame dampers hide the exhaust flare but also remove the thrust effect from the exhaust.

[Martyn]

I'm looking forward to the bomber Mosquito to do low-level NOE intruder missions - but I'm stuck for targets. There are no bridges, radars are inside heavily defended airfields (suicide for low level attacks), and the HQ needs too much ordnance. There are no rail marshalling yards and the roads and rail are indestructable. I suppose the barracks in VHs are possible, but they're tactical. <sigh>