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Offline WMLute

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2010, 04:17:05 PM »
Quote from: dirt911 on May 02, 2010, 01:52:30 PM


Yes but what the info i acquired said was at 25k it does 437 i gained up 415 at 25k

Source?

Need specifics.  Exact P-51 model, fuel load, etc, etc...
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2010, 05:02:19 PM »
Book Called "American Fighter" all of it looks and seems accurate. Anyways Model Na-109,111,122,,124.It doesn't show what weight and fuel load out.However if you do find the book it is a good find, and good purchase.Its really Worth reading I haven't found very much that isn't accurate.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2010, 09:56:08 PM »
Like I said, dirt, it may be accurate but there's a VERY good possibility it may have been a test crate flying under conditions that no combat-deployed aircraft used:

1) Taped or sealed panels and gunports and the best possible finish on the airframe, as well as all unnecessary external (IE: the wing pylons) and internal (a LOT of tests were run with the aircraft stripped of armament and ammunition) to minimize drag and weight.
2) Special power settings
3) Fuel type will make a HUGE difference, especially if it was using the 150 octane gas. NONE of our planes are modeled with the 150 gas.

That's why we need the specifics of the condition the speed measurement was taken under. HTC won't accept it just because a book says "A P-51D was clocked at X speed and Y altitude."
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2010, 10:06:29 PM »
Dirt Im sorry to have to tell you that is factory performance without any stores (no guns either).
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 05:52:55 PM »
Please.  The -4 is perked because it's too sexy.

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 09:00:33 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on May 02, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
Dirt Im sorry to have to tell you that is factory performance without any stores (no guns either).



Quote from: Saxman on May 02, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
Like I said, dirt, it may be accurate but there's a VERY good possibility it may have been a test crate flying under conditions that no combat-deployed aircraft used:

1) Taped or sealed panels and gunports and the best possible finish on the airframe, as well as all unnecessary external (IE: the wing pylons) and internal (a LOT of tests were run with the aircraft stripped of armament and ammunition) to minimize drag and weight.
2) Special power settings
3) Fuel type will make a HUGE difference, especially if it was using the 150 octane gas. NONE of our planes are modeled with the 150 gas.

That's why we need the specifics of the condition the speed measurement was taken under. HTC won't accept it just because a book says "A P-51D was clocked at X speed and Y altitude."



Yeah i guess you guy's have a point.Planes being tested would be tested for performance un-armed.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 12:28:56 AM »
It was strictly the only difference from war delivery aircraft. The factory did not tape anything for instance and the engine was the same used in typical aircraft of the same series.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 02:01:29 AM »
Quote from: dirt911 on May 02, 2010, 01:52:30 PM


Yes but what the info i acquired said was at 25k it does 437 i gained up 415 at 25k

Speed is simply not the sole consideration for airplane perk/eny ratings. As said, pilots being close to equal, the -4 hog will eat a pony alive, and easily.  One thing not mentioned is ammo load... -4 .. monstrous.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 07:59:38 PM »
Quote from: Steve on May 05, 2010, 02:01:29 AM
Speed is simply not the sole consideration for airplane perk/eny ratings. As said, pilots being close to equal, the -4 hog will eat a pony alive, and easily.  One thing not mentioned is ammo load... -4 .. monstrous.

Geez i never would have looked at it that way.Ty
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 08:17:59 PM »
Quote from: Gooss on May 03, 2010, 05:52:55 PM
Please.  The -4 is perked because it's too sexy.

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If that was the case then the Lightning would have been perked as well because that is the most beautiful and sexiest aircraft ever designed and built by man.

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2010, 08:20:05 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on May 05, 2010, 08:17:59 PM
If that was the case then the Lightning would have been perked as well...

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What?  You mean, just so it doesn't feel bad?
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2010, 10:17:44 PM »
Quote from: mtnman on May 05, 2010, 08:20:05 PM
What?  You mean, just so it doesn't feel bad?

Mercy perks?
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 11:13:51 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on May 05, 2010, 08:17:59 PM
If that was the case then the Lightning would have been perked as well because that is the most beautiful and sexiest aircraft ever designed and built by man.

Kool-aid drinker!

Obviously the most beautiful and sexiest plane ever (of all time) is the Seafire Mk 47.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2010, 06:16:51 PM »
Don't forget the -4's acceleration......

If I could only steal one of those 4 bladed props and stick it on my -1A......
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2010, 06:49:26 PM »
The 1A has to be overmodeled I'm sure they never really performed like they do in AH.
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