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Offline dirt911

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51D and F4U-4
« on: May 01, 2010, 08:19:07 PM »
One thing i do not understand about the price on U4 is this.51D travels at 437 high alt F4U4 travels 446 at same alt as 51D,so my question being asked why such a perk price makes no sense i fly U4 and 51D almost always.

I wouldn't want to see the U4 as to common in ah just not such a high perk price.What is its purpose i just don't understand.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 08:21:39 PM »
So you are looking for the main difference between U4 and Pony D?

Flaps.  :)

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 08:23:57 PM »
May i ask how is that

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 08:27:08 PM »
LOL Lusche nice avatar.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 08:41:31 PM »
May i ask how is that

in the 4-hog, the flaps have so much more surface area than the ones on the 51D, meaning that, in the hands of the experienced 4-hog pilot, they can make very sharp ACM's. also, the flaps in the 4-hog can extend at 400 mph
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 08:45:08 PM »
Oh i get it now yes that makes sense.But again why such a perk price.(Speed vs. 51)

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 08:49:22 PM »
May i ask how is that



Both are very fast planes, with the F4U-4 being actually considerable faster on deck. But as you can see by the charts, when the -4 gets her flaps out, it'S almost a different kind of plane.
To me, F4U's are like the Transformers of Aces High ;)


Oh i get it now yes that makes sense.But again why such a perk price.(Speed vs. 51)

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 08:49:39 PM »
Its a monster!

Its faster that the P51, will turn with a spit, climbs like a rocket.
Can give a spit 16 conniption fits with its combination of flaps/turn and climb.

It is exactly where it needs to be.

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2010, 08:57:34 PM »
Yes ty for the charts Lusche good deal glad to see that.It is worth what it costs.But about that 51's initial ah speed. at 25,000 feet a 51D could do 437 easy, in AH i have trouble reaching that.Only time i reach that is when at 30-28k and no drop tanks or bombs/rockets.


In AH i believe at 30k is when you will get over 430 MPH usually at 30k 437


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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2010, 09:01:43 PM »
Also I'm doing the test flights on this thing in MA right now so i am sitting at 30k in a 51. and doing roughly 430,

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2010, 09:03:11 PM »
Ok finally 437 at 30k  took for ever but now im going to see if i can hit sound barrier. :rock




Well that stinks i only hit 650 :sad
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2010, 09:08:08 PM »
Might want to get Htc on that 25k a 51D will reach 437 thats a plane performance issue.Hopefully im right may be worth research.However if my info is correct im hoping it can be fixed in this next version.

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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 08:44:36 AM »
Ok finally 437 at 30k  took for ever but now im going to see if i can hit sound barrier. :rock





Sounds to me like the P-51 is perfectly capable of hitting 437 already.

Keep in mind that the "book speed" was often set under very specific circumstances: Completely clean, (meaning all pylons removed. The P-51D has two pylons permanently fixed to the wings which add drag to the airframe) specific fuel loads, and often times with panel joints sealed or taped to further minimize drag. These test aircraft were very rarely the same as those actually deployed in combat so a performance discrepancy is not unusual.
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2010, 09:05:13 AM »
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Both are very fast planes, with the F4U-4 being actually considerable faster on deck. But as you can see by the charts, when the -4 gets her flaps out, it'S almost a different kind of plane.
To me, F4U's are like the Transformers of Aces High ;)


Plane for plane, the -4 eats the pony alive.
Not to mention lusche that you can up off of CVs which the Pony cant... Its all around better than the pony AND flies off CVs
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Re: 51D and F4U-4
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2010, 01:52:30 PM »
Sounds to me like the P-51 is perfectly capable of hitting 437 already.

Keep in mind that the "book speed" was often set under very specific circumstances: Completely clean, (meaning all pylons removed. The P-51D has two pylons permanently fixed to the wings which add drag to the airframe) specific fuel loads, and often times with panel joints sealed or taped to further minimize drag. These test aircraft were very rarely the same as those actually deployed in combat so a performance discrepancy is not unusual.



Yes but what the info i acquired said was at 25k it does 437 i gained up 415 at 25k