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Offline Die Hard

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Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« on: May 02, 2010, 05:35:20 PM »
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 05:50:35 PM »
There will be when soldiers no longer have a reason to open fire in any situation. Until then, don't make the same mistakes those "innocent people" did.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 06:33:37 PM »
My point was that when a soldier can apologize for doing wrong and a widow can forgive him there is hope for us all in this conflict.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 07:17:34 PM »
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 07:24:20 PM »
There will be when soldiers no longer have a reason to open fire in any situation. Until then, don't make the same mistakes those "innocent people" did.

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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 07:43:56 PM »
My point was that when a soldier can apologize for doing wrong and a widow can forgive him there is hope for us all in this conflict.
Not to say you're off base here but what wrong? When you're fighting an enemy that doesn't wear a uniform and has no rules of engagement...they kill their own people without regard...you have to put aside those ridiculous western ideals. I would have told that woman sorry it happened but...there is a very ugly war going on and unfortunately sometimes innocent people get hurt.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2010, 07:44:14 PM »
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2010, 07:46:06 PM »
See Rule #4
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It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.

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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2010, 07:53:15 PM »
i just saw the part up to where the apache pilot says "its their fault for bringing their children into a battle". i totaly agree.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2010, 07:53:25 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2010, 07:55:42 PM »
i just saw the part up to where the apache pilot says "its their fault for bringing their children into a battle". i totaly agree.

Would you say the same to the parents of the children killed in NY on 9/11 2001? The people of Baghdad live in Baghdad. It's not their fault it's a battlefield.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2010, 08:15:48 PM »
Would you say the same to the parents of the children killed in NY on 9/11 2001? The people of Baghdad live in Baghdad. It's not their fault it's a battlefield.

thats different. on 9/11, no one knew that there would be an attack, and it was too late to do anything for those poor souls at or above the impact zones. in Iraq, this war has been going on since 2003, and you dont think that the van didnt see a US Army helicopter watching them?
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 08:20:04 PM »
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2010, 08:21:45 PM »
I agree, it is different. I see that now. However, I don't think the driver of the van saw the gunship. I've seen the video of the attack (earlier thread) and it took several seconds from the cannon fire stated till the impact of the rounds. Those gunships where hundreds of yards away, possibly even more than a mile away.
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Re: Maybe there is hope for the human race after all?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2010, 09:46:33 PM »
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