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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2010, 08:45:48 AM »
#4 move entire squad ... bothers me.

would each member of the squad have an option to opt-in or opt-out for this? because if theres 9 of us already stuck into a great fight in one arena and we get yanked out of that arena/fight one by one as we hit the tower, just because squaddie #10 has logged in and cant join us because of caps, I'd be annoyed. in fact I'd opt out of it for just this reason, and I suspect most others would too.

overall I cant help thinking that all this approach does is formalise the logic that players already use to decide which arena they want to fly in and save it as a preference. how does this address any of the issues with arena caps?
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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2010, 01:05:50 PM »
I've heard people support that before, in a sense, it's kind of a slap in the face to the player base.  If I am a new player and I log in at 12:30 in the day and orange is closed and blue is open and I go to blue and say 14 players on, I'm going to think this 'MMO' game sucks.  People like to see how many players are online, gives it that community feel.

I like this wish though and it would give the community a way to balance the arenas themselves.  Of course, the ultimate issue with the game is that most of the time, there aren't enough players on to fill up two arenas at once to the point of minimum gameplay sustainability.  I think the real trick to dealing with the cap problems is getting about 2000 more europeans to sign up for this game, which would keep both arenas populated 24/7.  Then, putting it into the communities hands to help balance the two arenas would become VERY feasible.  How to do that?  I'm not sure about HiTech's advertisement efforts in Europe but if it was somehow possible to attract more from across the ocean, HiTech Creations would be on top of the world.


Totally Agree Grizz,   some Swedish noob the other day was asking random watermelon on country about whether we had downloaded the game.  He said he got the game boxed in a computer store   :headscratch:  , 

I will be making a T Shirt to wear at Duxford  with flyaceshigh.com  on the back but all it needs is a stall with a few laptops and sticks to advertise to 20,000 + WW2 enthusiasts in one day.  From all over Europe.
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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2010, 01:25:47 PM »
RTHolmes,
It wasn't very clear on my part but it's supposed to be an opt in/out kind of thing. For example, the squad CO gets in the tower and gets a message that the other arena could use more players for balance. He then decides to move to the other arena, now the players in his squad (Only when they get to the tower) get a message, "Your CO has moved to another arena, would you like to move with him?" That player then can choose yes or no depending on what he wants to do.

The goal of my ideas was to still allow everyone to play when/where/how they want, but to give HTC some tools that would allow players to help arena balance.
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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2010, 02:12:11 PM »

Totally Agree Grizz,   some Swedish noob the other day was asking random watermelon on country about whether we had downloaded the game.  He said he got the game boxed in a computer store   :headscratch:  , 

I will be making a T Shirt to wear at Duxford  with flyaceshigh.com  on the back but all it needs is a stall with a few laptops and sticks to advertise to 20,000 + WW2 enthusiasts in one day.  From all over Europe.

You should talk to HTC about doing some sort of official advertising for the company at these WW2 events.  They could send you some official stuff, like business fliers to litter peoples cars with, and comp your account for a year of course.  You should send them an email, I seriously think they would be interested if you'd be down to try to advertise for them a little bit.

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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2010, 02:54:31 PM »
You should talk to HTC about doing some sort of official advertising for the company at these WW2 events.  They could send you some official stuff, like business fliers to litter peoples cars with, and comp your account for a year of course.  You should send them an email, I seriously think they would be interested if you'd be down to try to advertise for them a little bit.

Having worked with "contractors", you need to be able to put alot of faith in the people who you allow to represent you.

No offense Bruv, I know you;re sincere about your complaints about aspects of the game, but would you put your reputation in the hands of someone who is possible disgruntled about your product?

Send Skuzzy to England instead.


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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2010, 02:58:15 PM »
Having worked with "contractors", you need to be able to put alot of faith in the people who you allow to represent you.

No offense Bruv, I know you;re sincere about your complaints about aspects of the game, but would you put your reputation in the hands of someone who is possible disgruntled about your product?

Send Skuzzy to England instead.


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Bruv would be an incredible representative of HTC in Europe if they gave him the opportunity.  He has been here a while, is CO of one of the best squadrons in the game, is a KOTH champion, and represents himself with pure class.  Even if there was some degree of 'risk' on HTCs part to put any faith into an upstanding person like Bruv, it would be outweighed by the potential rewards to business and avenues of expansion that they currently have limited means of accessing.

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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2010, 03:07:11 PM »
Bruv would be an incredible representative of HTC in Europe if they gave him the opportunity.  He has been here a while, is CO of one of the best squadrons in the game, is a KOTH champion, and represents himself with pure class.  Even if there was some degree of 'risk' on HTCs part to put any faith into an upstanding person like Bruv, it would be outweighed by the potential rewards to business and avenues of expansion that they currently have limited means of accessing.

Like I said, nothing personal against Bruv.  Maybe I'm just paranoid in risking my business reputation on someone who risks no repercussion  if they decide they have a separate agenda, having been the "may I speak to your supervisor" guy.

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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 06:14:13 PM »
I've heard people support that before, in a sense, it's kind of a slap in the face to the player base.  If I am a new player and I log in at 12:30 in the day and orange is closed and blue is open and I go to blue and say 14 players on, I'm going to think this 'MMO' game sucks.  People like to see how many players are online, gives it that community feel.

I like this wish though and it would give the community a way to balance the arenas themselves.  Of course, the ultimate issue with the game is that most of the time, there aren't enough players on to fill up two arenas at once to the point of minimum gameplay sustainability.  I think the real trick to dealing with the cap problems is getting about 2000 more europeans to sign up for this game, which would keep both arenas populated 24/7.  Then, putting it into the communities hands to help balance the two arenas would become VERY feasible.  How to do that?  I'm not sure about HiTech's advertisement efforts in Europe but if it was somehow possible to attract more from across the ocean, HiTech Creations would be on top of the world.
Totally agree with bruvs assesment on Htcs advertising over here it seems to be non existent, I was at Hendon the other day dozens of flight sims in the shop but nothing on this game.If I had any idea of its existence I would have been playing years earlier.
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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2010, 09:27:32 AM »
Advertising 101, cost of acquisition.

If it cost you more to advertise per new subscribe then the subscriber pays you. You will not be in business very long.

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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2010, 12:16:01 PM »
Hmm,?  :huh
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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2010, 12:59:47 PM »
Advertising 101, cost of acquisition.

If it cost you more to advertise per new subscribe then the subscriber pays you. You will not be in business very long.

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Give Bruv a full years subscription, $100 worth of kinkos discresionary spending for fliers, and to spend a few hours putting them on cars and handing them to people at the European WW2 shows.  Cost: Bruv's account and supply fees.  Potential gain?  If just 15-20 or so sign up for only 1 month, out of a demographic of people that would be perfectly marketable for this type of game, you'd break even at the minimum.  Just sayin.

p.s. It would also be a good days work for Bruv, as he would be saving $150 on AH subscriptions.  That's not bad moneys right there.  


p.p.s I'm putting words in Bruv's mouth of course :)

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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2010, 02:23:20 PM »
Advertising 101, cost of acquisition.

If it cost you more to advertise per new subscribe then the subscriber pays you. You will not be in business very long.

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I used the word advertise incorrectly it should have been promote,this game needs to be demonstrated at strategic events,airshows,r/c shows and the like maybe you could get together with the guys at naturalpoint and do a joint promotion throwing in a little tech advice, a lot of people are still pc phobic.I had no interest in computers untill I stumbled across this game and now I build them for family and friends.
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Re: My Ultimate "Arena Cap / Split Arena" Mega Wishlist
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2010, 02:32:49 PM »
Give Bruv a full years subscription, $100 worth of kinkos discresionary spending for fliers, and to spend a few hours putting them on cars and handing them to people at the European WW2 shows.  Cost: Bruv's account and supply fees.  Potential gain?  If just 15-20 or so sign up for only 1 month, out of a demographic of people that would be perfectly marketable for this type of game, you'd break even at the minimum.  Just sayin.

p.s. It would also be a good days work for Bruv, as he would be saving $150 on AH subscriptions.  That's not bad moneys right there.  


p.p.s I'm putting words in Bruv's mouth of course :)

Thanks for the thought grizz, but you would be amazed what it takes to bring in 20 new subscribers.

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« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2010, 07:06:37 PM »
Thanks for the thought grizz, but you would be amazed what it takes to bring in 20 new subscribers.

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I don't doubt it, but if you were to get someone, with credibility, willing to advertise at a European WW2 event, that's the perfect demographic of people to advertise to.  More than 99.9% of them have probably never even heard of Aces High and don't know such a great game exists.  Personally, if I was a WW2 enthusiast leaving a WW2 air show and had a flier on my car about a combat sim that offered 2 weeks free with absolutely no credit card requirement and immersive combat action, I would be interested.  Even if you got 3 people to get hooked on the game and become regular players, the campaign would be a success.  Imo, it has very high yield potential ratio compared to risk, if you contacted the right player to help you get the ball rolling and be your liaison in Europe.

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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2010, 01:38:24 PM »
I don't doubt it, but if you were to get someone, with credibility, willing to advertise at a European WW2 event, that's the perfect demographic of people to advertise to.  More than 99.9% of them have probably never even heard of Aces High and don't know such a great game exists.  Personally, if I was a WW2 enthusiast leaving a WW2 air show and had a flier on my car about a combat sim that offered 2 weeks free with absolutely no credit card requirement and immersive combat action, I would be interested.  Even if you got 3 people to get hooked on the game and become regular players, the campaign would be a success.  Imo, it has very high yield potential ratio compared to risk, if you contacted the right player to help you get the ball rolling and be your liaison in Europe.

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