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Terrorist Alert!
« on: May 05, 2010, 12:46:02 PM »
So, has the color change or was that a faild system?
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 12:59:04 PM »
It was failed from the start.  A pretty useless system I believe was CENSORED FOR RULE 14  :aok

While we're kind of on the topic, has anyone seen CNN's "how he made the bomb" video? http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/05/video-how-he-made-the-bomb/?iref=allsearch  What a ridiculous excuse for journalism.  I don't know how to make bombs, but the reported fails to even address the fertilizer in the box above, they cut out the description in their picture, I wonder if they even saw it.

I work in agriculture, and I had heard he used the wrong type of fertilizer, I had to have a little laugh when I found out he used urea instead of ammonium nitrate.  I wonder if the business who sold it to him were trying to swindle him?

I think it's another example of media putting being first as a higher priority than being right.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2010, 01:08:17 PM by Jayhawk »
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 01:15:07 PM »
It was failed from the start.  A pretty useless system I believe was CENSORED FOR RULE 14  :aok

While we're kind of on the topic, has anyone seen CNN's "how he made the bomb" video? http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/05/video-how-he-made-the-bomb/?iref=allsearch  What a ridiculous excuse for journalism.  I don't know how to make bombs, but the reported fails to even address the fertilizer in the box above, they cut out the description in their picture, I wonder if they even saw it.

I work in agriculture, and I had heard he used the wrong type of fertilizer, I had to have a little laugh when I found out he used urea instead of ammonium nitrate.  I wonder if the business who sold it to him were trying to swindle him?

I think it's another example of media putting being first as a higher priority than being right.



lol, using urea.  Not really going to do much on that one.  One thing for sure, it is a good thing it did not detonate. 
What do u do in agricultural?




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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 01:18:16 PM »
I work at a family owned full service agribusiness here in Northeast Kansas. I worked full time for a while but am only part time now due to school.  I do just about anything and everything except operate the machines.

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I know last time I checked we were out of nitrate and had to sell guys urea instead.  I don't follow national supply of nitrate but I wonder if this guy went in looking for it and the salesman convinced him that Urea (46% nitrogen v. 48% in nitrate, right?) was just as good for what he needed, I assume he told the guy it was for a small brome field or something.

Of course I don't know where or how the guy bought the fert.  We don't deal with 50lbs bags at all, I don't know if that is regulated more closely or what. 
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 01:20:57 PM »
How is that set-up on the AVT working?  I seen them but never got close enough to see how well they work. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 01:30:13 PM »
I added some more to the post above.

I assume you're asking about the ATV grid sampling from the picture on the website.  Inside that box is just an old laptop hooked up to the GPS receiver on the right.  I can't remember what program we use but it's just software to grid out a field.  We usually run the perimeter of the field then the program will grid out 1.6ac (this is what we use the most but I have done 1 ac and 2.5 ac) blocks and we take a sample at the center of each box.  The sample is small bag, about 10 cores, 6 inches in depth.  Those samples are sent in for analysis and we get a fancy report back that details specific conditions of each grid.  We have a couple machines, the precision ag ones, that then use those analysis to automatically change type and rate of fertilizer we apply to the field.
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 01:36:29 PM »
I work at a family owned full service agribusiness here in Northeast Kansas. I worked full time for a while but am only part time now due to school.  I do just about anything and everything except operate the machines.

jbpearl.com

I know last time I checked we were out of nitrate and had to sell guys urea instead.  I don't follow national supply of nitrate but I wonder if this guy went in looking for it and the salesman convinced him that Urea (46% nitrogen v. 48% in nitrate, right?) was just as good for what he needed, I assume he told the guy it was for a small brome field or something.

Of course I don't know where or how the guy bought the fert.  We don't deal with 50lbs bags at all, I don't know if that is regulated more closely or what. 



Most likely he would have told them that he is using it for the fescue grass,  hay production i bet.  You could put 100 to 150 lbs of fertilizer on fescue but all depends how many acres  you have 
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 01:43:58 PM »
We've been at Orange for the last 29 months. 
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 01:45:21 PM »
Of course he could have even bought 50-100lbs at a couple different places to lower the risk.  Who knows.
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 03:04:31 PM »
HMEs are pretty easy to make, at least here in Iraq. It make a pretty big boom too.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 03:13:37 PM »
All green here in Iowa. Osama took one look at this place, laughed and moved on  :salute
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 05:44:32 PM »
All green here in Iowa. Osama took one look at this place, laughed and moved on  :salute


LOL.

If this guy got his hand on fertilizer to make a bomb, just wait to see what will happen next.  That is all business that sell fertilizers will have to do a background check on you.  Just wait, it will happen. 
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 06:31:08 PM »
Hmmm... when I heard about this I could only think of one thing... Neosporin?  haha

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 06:55:51 PM »

LOL.

If this guy got his hand on fertilizer to make a bomb, just wait to see what will happen next.  That is all business that sell fertilizers will have to do a background check on you.  Just wait, it will happen. 
it's pretty much that way now with the anhydrous tanks. meth heads would be hog heaven if they they got their hands on that stuff. It's so bad that the co-ops have cameras watching over the place.
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Re: Terrorist Alert!
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 06:57:08 PM »
All green here in Iowa. Osama took one look at this place, laughed and moved on  :salute

He didn't like all the pig farms here.   :D
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