Author Topic: Ruskies dumping pirates overboard??? If they didn't then they should.  (Read 1669 times)

Offline Motherland

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How about making them live targets for our new soldiers?  It would eliminate the need of the shock of killing someone for the first time being in battle.  Using human targets would also be more realistic, as they would try to get away from the bullets.

Also, they could be used as disposable hand-to-hand combat dummies.  They would stand there, and the soldier would bayonet, knife, or simply club or choke them to death.  Ah Sparta, you always gave us the best training techniques!

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I know, I totally agree with you, I forgot the  :banana:, gotcha!

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What's so difficult about carting them home and prosecuting them...?

It costs $$$ we don't have.  Why should a single taxpayer dollar be spent on them?  It would be cheaper for the US govt to just pay all the ransom requests.  For that matter, we might as well just bribe them to not hijack any ships.  Wait... We tried that wel over 100 years ago.  It got too expensive and we sent in the Marines, problem solved, no more piracy against US flagged ships for 100 years.
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Offline Fishu

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Put a 20mm hole in the bottom of the dinghy and give them a teaspoon to bail and use as an oar to get back home.

Haha, for once we're on the exact same wave lenght. I said the exact same to others right after I saw the news.

Knowing the russians I was already expecting them to release the pirates in the middle of nowhere. If you screw the russians you better do it right, for they're going to screw you if you don't.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2010, 01:42:48 AM by Fishu »

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Offline Yossarian

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Pirates are people too.
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But not people worth keeping around.  I think that our ancestors had a point, once a pirate, always a pirate.  Besides, how many peoples' deaths has he/she made possible?  I say hang 'em high.

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Offline JimmyC

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 :devil  devils advocate here   :devil

alot of these pirates are displaced fishermen due to the fouling of waters from the international oil business...

just saying...
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:devil  devils advocate here   :devil

alot of these pirates are displaced fishermen due to the fouling of waters from the international oil business...

just saying...

Very true.
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Offline gyrene81

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alot of these pirates are displaced fishermen due to the fouling of waters from the international oil business...

just saying...

Very true.
So...that means all of the displaced people out of work because of the corrupt economic finanical systems and oil companies gouging prices should band together and do something similar? Somalia's problems started long before the international oil business caused any issues.
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So...that means all of the displaced people out of work because of the corrupt economic finanical systems and oil companies gouging prices should band together and do something similar? Somalia's problems started long before the international oil business caused any issues.

Not at all, I'm just saying that the reason for their piracy is fairly obvious, and that it isn't that they're doing it out of evilness, or anything like that.
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:devil  devils advocate here   :devil

alot of these pirates are displaced fishermen due to the fouling of waters from the international oil business...

just saying...

Its not simply Oil business alone. 

There is always Our side, Their Side and the Truth. 

Here is some of Their side and probably holds some Truth.

http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/afrikan-world-news/36983-reason-somali-piracy.html


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Offline Fishu

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They're pirating because it's profitable and there's a low risk of getting into real trouble, like dying or suffering. Everything else in the current magnitude of pirating is just an excuse. Failing, or getting caught, usually means that they're stripped of their weapons and equipment, but then let free to try again. Western states aren't interested in hauling them back to home with them, since for the pirates the western jails are no worse than what they face at home and on top of that they might be eligible for asylum afterwards. Just don't get caught by the russians or chinese.

Piracy is business. The groups sent to sea are funded by investors or some wealthy pirate staying ashore. You can get new pirate sailors for cheap while the equipment costs the most, although the weapons are cheap. If they fail the investor at most loses the equipment. The risk is neglible compared to the profits - try again and you may well gain back what you lost and even get profit.

Piracy is made possible by the anarchist state of the country. There's no central government, not the kind that has any power whatsoever. There's no navy and there are innumerous safe havens on land. The armed groups are more powerful than any government force, which is forced to stay on defensive. The rebels have nothing but to gain from piracy that can be used to fund their cause. So there's not only those seeking for wealth but also rebels seeking for more power. And money is power.

Better yet, they're raiding ships that are nowhere near the Somalian waters. Try to make up an excuse for that; other than that the somalian waters have more patrols.

The foreign fishers pretty much abandoned the place once it became too dangerous to operate. The "somalian coastguard" ran out of fishing ships and turned their attention to other ships, realising how good business it was to capture fishing ships for ransom. That's where their justification ended.

They're not on a just cause by any means, only greed. Just like many others around the world touting for a just cause.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2010, 12:16:12 PM by Fishu »

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oh fuss.  bad guys no.  good guys yes.  be done with it.

Offline Yossarian

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oh fuss.  bad guys no.  good guys yes.  be done with it.

Yes, cause things are just *that* simple.  Yeah right.
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