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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2010, 11:21:19 PM »
Here is the video. Said pony does the deed near the end.

http://www.mediafire.com/?enmddzn2zdc

At the time you start in the tank, where you engage with another tank or scraf by other AC? 
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 11:24:54 PM »
At the time you start in the tank, where you engage with another tank or scraf by other AC?  

Aha! I found the culprit! A panzer did indeed sniff me out and shot me. Coincidentally it looked like the P-51 did it but on careful inspection the pony missed.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 12:05:11 AM »
we just went over this about the wurb/osti.

AK AK says it can be done but I'M not sure about a tank.

panzer for sure but i don't know about a sherm.



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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 12:54:50 AM »
we just went over this about the wurb/osti.

AK AK says it can be done but I'M not sure about a tank.

panzer for sure but i don't know about a sherm.



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It can not be done on a tank unless you are in a IL2 or B-25 armed with 75mm.  any other AC can not kill a tank alone with a 30mm (it may but not sure), 20mm, .50 cal or smaller cal. 
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 01:17:28 AM »
It can not be done on a tank unless you are in a IL2 or B-25 armed with 75mm.  any other AC can not kill a tank alone with a 30mm (it may but not sure), 20mm, .50 cal or smaller cal. 
I have killed a panzer with repetitive annoying in a 110 with 20 and 30 mm cannons
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 02:12:10 AM »
It can not be done on a tank unless you are in a IL2 or B-25 armed with 75mm.  any other AC can not kill a tank alone with a 30mm (it may but not sure), 20mm, .50 cal or smaller cal. 

Hurri IID's 40mm cannons seem to have a shot....
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 02:48:10 AM »
I have killed a panzer with repetitive annoying in a 110 with 20 and 30 mm cannons


You've got the kill, but did you kill it?

There was a long-standing (years and years) issue with treads soaking up tons of damage points and giving kills to 110s that strafed everything that moved. Most were kill stealing.

Sometimes you can disable the treads and the guy towers giving you a kill, but you never penetrated the armor shell.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 08:02:20 AM »
u guys overrate the armor. what made the armor so tough was the fact it was slanted at an angle thus making it thicker. coming in from above the armor would be much thinner and im sure a well placed .50 could penetrate it. Also the barrels themselves were mostly unarmored. would say about 80 to 90 % of it was exposed. a gunner would have to be suicidal to shoot with a barrel that has even the slightest of damage.

so as for a .50 being capable of taking out a turret (in game the turret is the main gun, barrel, or tube) imo it is possible and should be.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 08:11:55 AM »
I have killed a panzer with repetitive annoying in a 110 with 20 and 30 mm cannons

The 110G is indeed the only non-tankbuster (Il-2, HurriD, B25H) that has genuinely killed me (not just getting the kill credit) in a tank by strafing alone.




You've got the kill, but did you kill it?

There was a long-standing (years and years) issue with treads soaking up tons of damage points and giving kills to 110s that strafed everything that moved. Most were kill stealing.

Sometimes you can disable the treads and the guy towers giving you a kill, but you never penetrated the armor shell.

This issue has been largely resolved with one of the recent updates.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 08:36:52 AM »
The 110G is indeed the only non-tankbuster (Il-2, HurriD, B25H) that has genuinely killed me (not just getting the kill credit) in a tank by strafing alone.


I want to say I've fragged a few tanks with a Yak - T as well in the past, but I don't recall if those were simply bail outs.  I believe I saw a couple legitimate pops.  Course' you could make the argument that the Yak T is a tank buster...

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 09:29:40 AM »
Hurri IID's 40mm cannons seem to have a shot....

Oh yea, that 40 mm in the hurri will do the job.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2010, 09:48:44 AM »
I want to say I've fragged a few tanks with a Yak - T as well in the past, but I don't recall if those were simply bail outs.  I believe I saw a couple legitimate pops.  Course' you could make the argument that the Yak T is a tank buster...

The Yak 9t is no tankbuster at all.

It may sport the same NS-37 cannon as the Il-2, but apparently it carries different ammunition.

I tested it extensively offline vs the stationary Tiger. The Il-2 had no problem killing it or at least disabling it's turret with 10-40 rounds. Each attack run results in a dead or disabled Tiger.

When testing the same with the Yak-9T (with ammo multiplier set to 10, giving it 320 rounds), I couldn't even scratch the Tiger with a lot more hits. Most notably was the difference in hit sprites: When flying the Il, i would see a lot of hit splashes on top deck armor, whereas with the Yak the rounds would often just ricochet when striking the top armor at the similar angles and distances. Unless striking the tracks, I rarely saw any splashes at all.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 10:53:32 AM »
The Yak 9t is no tankbuster at all.

It may sport the same NS-37 cannon as the Il-2, but apparently it carries different ammunition.

I tested it extensively offline vs the stationary Tiger. The Il-2 had no problem killing it or at least disabling it's turret with 10-40 rounds. Each attack run results in a dead or disabled Tiger.

Yea, to be honest I was thinking of examples attacking panzers and t-34s.  I know for a fact I've smoked turrets on both with the Yak-T.  Tigers I don't recall ever doing so.  Again, I don't recall if I was able to actually get a clean kill on the panzers/t-34s, or if they bailed due to an out turret.  Either way, I'm positive I have turreted both. (no friendlies around, no ack up)

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2010, 12:40:36 PM »
we just went over this about the wurb/osti.

AK AK says it can be done but I'M not sure about a tank.

panzer for sure but i don't know about a sherm.



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.50 cals will not take out a tank turret but it will easily take out the turret on either of the flak panzies.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2010, 01:20:21 PM »
I dont know.....one thousand hits of .50 BMG rounds from above might disable a Sherman...wouldnt destroy it without a damned luck few rounds but it would surely cause some form of trouble.  In real world application.
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