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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2010, 04:29:10 PM »
Pyro, Still the same problem on my machine with the 2.19 Patch 1  :frown:
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2010, 04:35:10 PM »
wow...really on top of this...thank you Pyro.   Sorry to hear it did not work Conan...was hoping it was good to go, have not updated yet but will soon to see if maybe it'll work here.  btw goin back to one screen is good except there's still a lot of other stuff, wierd stuff happnin  everything is tiny, planes flickin on and off  vox gone etc etc. 

guess we just hold on till all the critters are squashed..

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 05:28:01 PM »
So, I figured a pretty obvious work around - although its definitely not the preferred solution, the simple fix is: move all the SoftTH files to a temporary folder on the desktop and revert AH back to one monitor.  Sux, but it works and at least we can be in the game untill someone figures out WTF happened!

Only other options are to either spend hours trying to figure out stuff we do not have all the info for or wait it out.

For the moment my work around is: roll back to 2.18 Patch 8 (which luckily I backed-up before updating yesterday), move the Radio and Clipboard (in each of its selections) over to the left hand screen, then update again to 2.19

So now I can at least use the Radio and Clipboard again without having to do everything via dot.commands. You can move your head in the Hanger in order to select anything not on the left screen. Biggest problem for now, seems to be saying OK to "save a film" after a sortie.

I'm sure Pyro will get it sorted soon though.
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Re: Mouse cursor problem with new windowed startup.
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2010, 06:39:11 PM »
ummm I'm pretty sure the resolution shown on the AH splash screen is supposed to be the res you have the game set at in your video settings, but it seems like its reverting to preset numbers regardless of what the video is set to..


nah, it is not random or preset numbers, it is the apparently the size of the window.. resize the window, watch it change..  :rolleyes:

the question remains what is the point of the resolution displayed on splash screen if it has nothing to do with the in-game resolution.. :)




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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2010, 09:25:40 PM »
Sorry to report that after installing patch 2.19 patch 1 I'm still having the problem of my cursor not being able to leave the leftmost screen of my SoftTH setup.

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2010, 10:01:05 PM »
I'm with Mutha, the patch DID NOT fix the problem. Doesn't seem to have made any change at all.

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2010, 12:15:16 AM »
BTW, just to mention. if I force it to a single screen and access the clipboard, the range icons can't be set to 15. Well you can set them to 15 but they don't change size at all.

Pretty messed up right now.

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2010, 07:56:02 AM »
yep - mouse still in left screen.
got around it by typing .help in radio buffer to throw clipboard to left screen but patch did not fix issue.
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2010, 08:26:17 AM »
Same here - 2.19.1 did not fix it....I'm gonna make a statement that I cannot really back up in program-ese, but I'm pretty confident that the problem with the multi screen setups stems directly from the "windowed"  splash screen.

My reasoning comes from the fact that when the game starts, the splash screen comes on and: the AH mouse cursor appears in the windowed screen and is trapped there (it will not move out of the window, but the original windows mouse cursor appears on the other screens when you try to navigate to them). The Triplehead software does not start up untill after the log on screen, but the AH mouse cursor has already been initialized and set to work within the original winowed screen coordinates, which traps it on the left screen even though Triplehead software has spread the game across all 3 monitors.

I may be full of it, but I am betting pretty strongly that if we could eliminate that windowed startup thing all would be fine, at least for the multi monitor people.

how bout it Pyro, no offense but could we give it a try?  I'm more than willing to deal with any firewall problems the same way as before.  Or at least tell us how to turn it off so we can give it a try?

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edit:  there is a switch in the SoftTH.cfg that supposedly addresses this and spreads the mouse coordinates across all 3 screens, but I have tried it a number of times and it makes no difference - the mouse cursor stays where AH thinks it should be.
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2010, 02:24:34 PM »
Same here - 2.19.1 did not fix it....I'm gonna make a statement that I cannot really back up in program-ese, but I'm pretty confident that the problem with the multi screen setups stems directly from the "windowed"  splash screen.

My reasoning comes from the fact that when the game starts, the splash screen comes on and: the AH mouse cursor appears in the windowed screen and is trapped there (it will not move out of the window, but the original windows mouse cursor appears on the other screens when you try to navigate to them). The Triplehead software does not start up untill after the log on screen, but the AH mouse cursor has already been initialized and set to work within the original winowed screen coordinates, which traps it on the left screen even though Triplehead software has spread the game across all 3 monitors.

I may be full of it, but I am betting pretty strongly that if we could eliminate that windowed startup thing all would be fine, at least for the multi monitor people.

how bout it Pyro, no offense but could we give it a try?  I'm more than willing to deal with any firewall problems the same way as before.  Or at least tell us how to turn it off so we can give it a try?

TC

edit:  there is a switch in the SoftTH.cfg that supposedly addresses this and spreads the mouse coordinates across all 3 screens, but I have tried it a number of times and it makes no difference - the mouse cursor stays where AH thinks it should be.

I haven't downloaded the latest version or the patch yet, but I wanted to add my name to the list of SoftTH users, because while I haven't experienced these issues yet, it's likely I will.  Rapier and Mutha are squadmates and like them, I'm a SoftTH user.  We've all invested in that extra immersion afforded by triple monitors, so it's safe to say that it's important to us to have this resolved.  I currently use SoftTH version 1.08.

I'm no expert, but I think TC's onto something.  I've seen discussions in the SoftTH support forums where other folk have experienced this left-screen mouse issue in other games.  It might be linked to API hooking--I've seen that term used in relation to this.  There are settings in the SoftTH config file that relate to hooking the mouse and scaling its movement.  Given that SoftTH users didn't have these issues until 2.19, it's possible that the Windowing feature might be the cause.  BTW, here's an example of what the relevant mouse switches look like in the SoftTH config file:

doHooking=1
doScaleMouseCoordinates=0
doScaleFromLeftScreen=1
doScaleWindowRects=1
doScaleClientRects=1
mouseXoffset=auto


(That's just an example, not my actual settings...)

The HTC guys are pretty smart, so they probably already know how this works, but I thought I'd just chime in because there may be more SoftTH users out there than first meets the eye, just waiting for the fix.  Personally, I'll wait for a new fix to be issued before I download the game again.

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2010, 05:47:32 PM »
If you auto film, has anyone figured out how to move the save film dialog to the left screen?
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2010, 05:50:41 PM »
I have spent some time searching over at the Keygens (SoftTH) forums and yes, apparently the mouse-stuck-left-screen-thing has occured in other games as well.  The hook settings changes that were recommended appeared to work in these games so I changed the settings as suggested, but no dice.

I am beginning to think that my previous rant about what may be causing this could be a bit off target but what keeps naggin at me is 2.18.8 had no problems and worked without issue with SoftTH, so one (or more) of the 2.19 changes obviously jacked it.  There is also something wacky with the new splash screen and the resolution settings and attempting to minimize/maximize/re size the window...I can say from a LOT of tinkering around with it that it definitely ain't working right.  Exactly what is wrong and how to fix it is beyond my ability (unless I get lucky and stumble onto some change or setting that happens to work which I will post immediately)

I am able to play in triple screen using dot commands, but without the mouse or access to the clipboard I am pretty hobbled with what I can actually do.  Hope someone figures this out soon...
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2010, 06:33:23 PM »
Out of curiosity, which version of SoftTH are you guys using?  I'm using version 1.08. 

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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2010, 07:02:01 PM »
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Re: Cursor stuck on left screen in 3 screen SoftTH set up
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2010, 07:25:21 PM »
SoftTH v1.08 here