Firefly

[Tec]

He registered in April of 08, he's had more than a few tours to "get the newness off".





Oh wait, you were talking about the tanks?

[bj229r]

I've been here nearly 10 years and I haven't started near this many threads....

[grumpy37]

i GV a lot and have been playing this game on and off for a very long time.  The Tiger IMHO has always been worthless.  Maybe its just me but I always seem to be the "one shot death" no matter what tank im in. I was upping shermans just to burn tank points when they were cheap but now that they are weaker then before and more expensive i dont see the point in using them.  Gun may be more accurate but not worth the perkies if  you ask me.

[321BAR]

i GV a lot and have been playing this game on and off for a very long time.  The Tiger IMHO has always been worthless.  Maybe its just me but I always seem to be the "one shot death" no matter what tank im in. I was upping shermans just to burn tank points when they were cheap but now that they are weaker then before and more expensive i dont see the point in using them.  Gun may be more accurate but not worth the perkies if  you ask me.

just yesterday i sat on a mountainside with firefly 76 rounds pinging off me. dont call the tiger worthless anymore and it never was worthless in AHI. Back then you'd have people scream tiger tank at base #!!!!!!!! KILL HIM! BEFORE HE BLOWS US ALL UP!!! AIRSUPPORT NEEDED at # base!!!!!!! UP LANCASTERS!!! THERES A TIGER TANK!!!!! AHHHH!!!! IM DIEING!!!!

[Karnak]

i GV a lot and have been playing this game on and off for a very long time.  The Tiger IMHO has always been worthless.  Maybe its just me but I always seem to be the "one shot death" no matter what tank im in. I was upping shermans just to burn tank points when they were cheap but now that they are weaker then before and more expensive i dont see the point in using them.  Gun may be more accurate but not worth the perkies if  you ask me.

Well, T-34/85s are still cheap....

[Yarbles]

Can spomeone explain generally what the perk system is trying to achieve?

I think we should all be clear what it is for and I am not sure though I can see good reasons for having it. I am not sure if it is to balance th game some how and if so to what end or for historical accuracy and or combination of the two or something else?    

Anyway according to Wiki 2000 fireflies built but only 1347 Tiger 1's. It is not surprising the Tiger lost goroujd when 2 tanks built to counter it and the Panzer have been introduces i.e. The Firefly and the T 34 85.

1 in 4 British Shermans at Normandy were fireflies I understand which probably overall was less than 10%. It will be interesting to see what percentage will be Fireflies in game. If I was launching a tank mission I would want at least 1 firefly to avoid a Michael Wittman (or whatever his name was type incident) the 17 pounder is probably the equal of the 88 but the firefly armour should be very inferiour to the Tiger which I beleive it now is.   

[Karnak]

Yarbles,

The perk system is intended to control the overuse of powerful units that could otherwise imbalance gameplay, while still allowing iconic or fun WWII units to be available for players.  E.g. free Me262s make just about every other fighter pointless, but are iconic WWII German fighters that at least some players will greatly desire to use.  It also provides a reward system for using less potent units or playing on the outnumbered side.

Production numbers and service dates have nothing to do with perk status.  We have units in AH that were produced in numbers ranging from below 100 to over 30,000.

[Yarbles]

Thanks.

On that basis I would say the perk on the firefly is likely to be too high but its a case of wait and see.

I think you would agree Karnak the Spit 14 is too expensive given that the 109 k4 isnt perked and that many people will fare better in a spit 8 or 16 anyway. I personally believe the 14 should be perked but at less than half the current rate.

[dirt911]

I love the Firefly I mean don't get me wrong,but i just think it isnt worth what it costs now.I would pay say around 8-10 perks but no more.

[321BAR]

I love the Firefly I mean don't get me wrong,but i just think it isnt worth what it costs now.I would pay say around 8-10 perks but no more.

the gun IS the firefly. and the gun is on par with the 88. therefore 1/2 the price of the tigerI cuz everything can get a chance to kill the firefly but not everything kills the tiger...simple as that

[lyric1]

The King is dead.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,289415.0.html

Long live the King.

Well at least in the next patch.

[dirt911]

Well right now im not paying a cent for the Firefly,bug with its gun shells makes them like shooting rubber.

[Nemisis]

Guys, heres the deal:

Before the new version (ie, the increased perk cost), it was "oh, a tiger upped? Hang on, I'll grab a firefly". Either the firefly was perked far too low, or the tiger was perked about 3 times as much as it should be.

Now what would you rather have? Hoards of tigers, or a reduced number of fireflys? htc HAD to do something, it was insane. People were racking up 30+ kills before being taken down by an A20.

The panzer and the M4(76) are both capable perfectly of taking down the tiger. Simple formula here, and I'l even share it with you...

2 shots to turret it + 1 shot to kill the engine when it turns to run = you get a kill on a tiger.


In real life, not even firefly drivers gave the tiger as little respect as it got when we had 4 perk fireflys. Stop whining just because you don't want to shell out some perks for a gun that owns, and don't want to pay extra for some armor.

[dirt911]

Guys, heres the deal:

Before the new version (ie, the increased perk cost), it was "oh, a tiger upped? Hang on, I'll grab a firefly". Either the firefly was perked far too low, or the tiger was perked about 3 times as much as it should be.

Now what would you rather have? Hoards of tigers, or a reduced number of fireflys? htc HAD to do something, it was insane. People were racking up 30+ kills before being taken down by an A20.

The panzer and the M4(76) are both capable perfectly of taking down the tiger. Simple formula here, and I'l even share it with you...

2 shots to turret it + 1 shot to kill the engine when it turns to run = you get a kill on a tiger.


In real life, not even firefly drivers gave the tiger as little respect as it got when we had 4 perk fireflys. Stop whining just because you don't want to shell out some perks for a gun that owns, and don't want to pay extra for some armor.

Well now that the Tiger has been fixed and the Firefly's gun shell bug repaired,I believe that it may be seen the same as it was before the perk price was raised.

[321BAR]

Well now that the Tiger has been fixed and the Firefly's gun shell bug repaired,I believe that it may be seen the same as it was before the perk price was raised.